Why does size matter?

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    But you were willing to bet your life on it?
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Against you? Sure, if the money is right. This is assuming that your persona on this forum isn't an elaborate ruse (ala Keyser Soze/Verbal Kint) and that you haven't suffered any serious head trauma in the years since high school though.

    All jokes aside though, I don't even remember why you called me "stupid" or questioned my English grades but there is virtually no chance that you are smarter than me or did better in school, at any point in your life. I would bet a LOT of money on this if I could.
     
  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I can guarantee I am 10x smarter than you.

    I said you didn't do well in English class because in high school English we learned about rhetorical devices. Willard was speaking figuratively when he said he couldn't fight. Do I have to explain why that is figurative language?
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Ok, I believe you now. You are 10X smarter than me for sure!:eaea:

    Figurative language use falls along a continuum, from mild exaggerations to completely figurative metaphors. Willard's statement struck me as the former. He obviously was speaking at least somewhat figuratively but the ultimate meaning of his words was crystal clear: he did not consider himself a particularly skilled boxer. Did you actually think that I thought that Willard considered himself to be absolutely unskilled?
     
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  5. reznick

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    Tyson Fury has self deprecated himself as a boxer many times.
     
  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Willard mean't that he wasn't particularly skilled compared to some other fighters like Johnson, Dempsey, etc. and actually you did say that Willard considerd himself unskilled when you said that Willard isn't here to defend his own lack of skill. When you lack something you don't have it.
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    lack
    lak/
    noun
    1. the state of being without or not having enough of something.
     
  8. Seamus

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    Should we list all the smaller heavies that Foreman, Bowe, Vit and Wlad beat the cr*p out of?

    Or do we even have time for that?
     
  9. Mr.DagoWop

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    Not how you mean't it tho.
     
  10. Mr.DagoWop

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    They didn't beat up too many "small heavies". The ones they did weren't atg's.
     
  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    By the way, this type of assertion gets repeated all the time in forums like this but I see no basis for it. But at least you raised the lower weight to 215 (instead of the 200 that most people use).
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Dempsey, Marciano, and Louis didn't beat up too many "super heavies." The ones they did weren't atg's...
     
  13. Mr.DagoWop

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    Marciano didn't fight any super heavies...

    However the super heavies of today aren't atg's so it doesn't matter if the super heavies that Dempsey and Louis fought weren't.
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

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    That was just a random number.

    Nothing about weight increases chin strength. You can either take a punch or you can't. Being 190 lbs or 250 lbs won't change that.
     
  15. Seamus

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    Joe Frazier?
    Evan Fields?

    By the time Waldo came around, good small heavies were a thing of the past. Chris Byrd was the closest thing to a great small heavy and Waldo whacked him around like a straw doll.