"He cleaned up the division"

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Oh and when was Williams top 10 again?
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Carlos Monzon, and until he got old, Jose Napoles.
     
  3. janitor

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    Jersey Joe Walcott actually made a pretty clean sweep of the division before the first Louis fight.

    Just thought that you ought to know!
     
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  4. lufcrazy

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    Larry never beat a reigning champion nor beat the 1/2 when 1/2. He is not fitting the criteria.

    The best one is Jersey Joe for me. He beat almost everyone in the top 10.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    "Almost everyone" believed Muhammad Ali was the champion for the third time when he defeated Leon Spinks.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    Nobody at heavyweight "cleaned out" the division before becoming champion.

    Even including after becoming champion you'll be left with maybe two candidates, Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali.
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    Buster Douglas is the obvious proof that Tyson did NOT clean out the division.
    Douglas was a ranked contender before Tyson was. Tyson lost to him the first and only time they fought.
    You can't "clean out" a division and then lose to a guy who was hanging around the rankings all the time. That makes no sense.

    But to be fair to Douglas he may not have been as "big" a "name" as Witherspoon but his credentials during Tyson's reign were just as good and perhaps better.
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    Which top 10?
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    The ring
     
  10. McGrain

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    Joe Brown at lightweight. Duran at lightweight, kinda, in the sense that he four times beat the best lightweight in the world excepting himself.
     
  11. Mr.DagoWop

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    Jack Dempsey

    Took out Fulton, Morris, Brennan, Smith, Levinsky,
    Decisioned Miske
     
  12. McGrain

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    Never met the best fighter in the world excepting himself. No danger that's a clear out.

    But tbf, clearing out a division is really, really rare. There are even arguments against Brown and Duran.
     
  13. Mr.DagoWop

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    Fulton was seen as the best contender in the world when Dempsey knocked him out.
     
  14. McGrain

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    He certainly did damage before Wills came to the fore, but it's a stretch imo.
     
  15. Mr.DagoWop

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    Dempsey was seen as the underdog against Fulton and an unknown a few months before the bout. Fulton was seen as a top contender in 1917 and Willard ducked him.