Who was stronger Foreman or Ali?

It's extremely difficult. Frazier manhandled Ali on a couple of occasions. Foreman ragdolled Frazier. Ali appeared to have no strength deficit when he fought Foreman.

If i was guessing who could press or push a heavier weight i'd go for Foreman. Functional strength in the boxing ring is more about core strength and balance though. Momentum plays its part in individual squabbles. It's a very difficult question to answer for these reasons.

 

Well, yes, i'm presuming in fairness that the question is being asked in the light of boxing rather than weightlifting.

If it's a weightlifting question, that, I have no opinion on.

Out of interest, what are you basing your "sheer strength" answer on? Is it him carrying that animal or something else or is there actual information on what they lifted?

 

And how do they come by this conclusion?

I think we'd see pretty much the same thing if it were Liston in the ring; which is to say a) i'd guess Liston and Foreman are about as strong as each other (Foreman testified to something along these lines) and b) neither Liston or Ali would appear to be the stronger in the ring, for the same reasons that Ali did no appear (to me) to be any less strong than Foreman in Kinshasa.

 

If Vitali didn't, why is it of import that Foreman was stronger than him in the opinion of "some posters here"?

Foreman. Due to style and approach he had more cause to exhibit superior strength. Ali meanwhile spent a lot of time playing possum and dancing, thereby having less reason to exhibit his strength.

However, in deducing who was stronger out of two men, i'd turn most immediately to direct confrontation between the two.

Having taken all of this into account, I'd say that it is a very very difficult question to answer and certainly not so straight forwards as many people would believe. I think that, with a gun to my head, I'd say that Ali looked the stronger in the ring in DRC.

 

Yes, I don't think there's a difference between second career Ali and Foreman that would matter.

That said, you can conjure footage to cast that statement in doubt should you wish to do so, so who knows.