Who do you rate higher as an ATG and why? W Klitschko or E Holyfield

holyfield the higher ranked at ATG but wlad maybe h2h at HW

 

Undoubtedly Holyfield. Holyfield's prime was actually at Cruiserweight. I have no problems with anyone who have him as the Top 10 best of all time (prime, thus his cruiser self).

Incidentally, Holyfield is the greatest Cruiserweight of all time, whilst also is an ATG heavyweight. Holyfield has the better wins, a few HOF names.

Wladmir is not even a Top 100 ATG, he's probably Top 150, whereas Holyfield is a lock for Top 50.

 

Prime Wlad from later 00's KO's any version of drug cheat Holyfield.

 

Dude Evander got caught for that in 2007. In his prime in the 90s-00s he was clean. Let it go.

On February 28, 2007, Holyfield was anonymously linked to Applied Pharmacy Services, a pharmacy in Alabama that is currently under investigation for supplying athletes with illegal steroids and human growth hormone (HGH). He denies ever using performance enhancers.

Holyfield's name does not appear in the law enforcement documents reviewed. However, a patient by the name of "Evan Fields" caught investigators' attention. "Fields" shares the same birth date as Holyfield—October 19, 1962. The listed address for "Fields" was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription, was dialed, Holyfield answered.


So many guys got caught before hand how was this guy, who is not the smartest man in the world, get away with it and Vitali did not?
Botha, Morrison, Toney, Jones Jr., Mayorga, Vargas all got caught before Holyfield did because he just started using mid 2000s.

 

Holyfield has the better resume and skillset.

Wladimir has the better achievements.

Holy in the rematch with Lewis and Bowe proved he could fight on an even playing field with SHW fighters.

Wladimir would have to rely heavily on his hugging tactics and if he has a referee who isn't lenient he could find himself disqualified.

The way I see it, there will be a battle of the jabs for the most part with Wlad trying to maintain distance, Holy trying to jab his way inside.

Wlad doesn't have the inside uppercut that Lewis had and he can't exchange on the inside like Bowe could. Could he tie Holy up before Holy gets his body shots off? At first yeah I've no doubt but as the rounds go Wladimir would begin to tire and Holy would still be punching hard combinations.

I say Holy stops him after 5 rounds.

Although it's totally plausible Wladimir ends him with a 1-2.

 

LMAO

 

Easily Wlad. I rate Wlad as the 2nd beat Hw of his era behind Vitali. I rate Evander as the third best of his era behind Lewis and Tyson. Evander era was better but Wlad's was longer. Overall? Wlad around #9 or 10 all time, Evander around mid teens.

 

Also, h2h Wlad destroys Holyfield

 

Holyfield and it isn't even close. First undisputed cruiserweight champ to win the undisputed HW championship, only 4 time HW champ(should of been 5, but they robbed him in the SNV fight) better resume than Wlad and the better achievements. Even h2h in their prime I still pick Holyfield, Wlad has no inside game, none.

 

Evan fields? Top 10 ATG? Do you also consider Justin Gatlin as an ATG? Even with the assumption that all of the pros are juiced, I don't see how he gets in the top 20.

 

The Real Deal

 

wladimir higher at heavy
holyfield higher at cruiserweight

ranking them both at heavy only then wladimir longevity and consistency is better than holyfields.

 

Vlad is no ATG!

What ATG has Vlad fought and defeated?
What major A-Class opponents have Vlad defeated?
None.

How many ATGs has Holyfield fought and defeated?
-George Forman
-Larry Holmes
-Riddick Bowe
-Mike Tyson
-Lennox Lewis

Be real!
You should not even mention Vlad and Holyfield in the same sentence or paragraph.
Holyfield was levels above Vlad and had they meet prime for prime Holyfield would have KO'ed Vlad.