Joseph Parker: The Samoan Sledgehammer Of South Auckland-The Heavyweight Kaipato Kiwi

The Wlad and Ruiz fights were only announced recently, while for months there was no word from either AJ of Parker about their title fight, which should have happened before the 16th of January 2017, according to the IBF rules. Yes, I do find it strange that after all the big talk from both of them they ran in different directions and altogether dropped any talk about that title fight. And please, don't give me Wlad as an excuse - this only became a possibility a couple of weeks ago.

 

You're being willfully ignorant of the facts.

There has been plenty regarding a possible fight between Parker and Joshua. Initially Joshua was looking at Stiverne, then Pulev. The plan was to have Parker fight on the undercard of Joshua's next fight against David Price to promote a fight between Parker and Joshua next year.

When Pulev pulled out, Parker was then the front runner, Hearn would have preferred to delay the fight til next year so they could build the fight properly and Duco events had no problem with that. For a short period Hughie Fury was a possibility but he quickly priced himself out of the picture and it didn't look like anyone else was willing to fight Joshua and so it seemed Joshua/Parker would happen this year. But then Fury cancelled the fight with Wlad and everything changed.

If it was all big talk why was Parker set to fight on Joshua's undercard? Why were they even mentioning each other when silence would have been smarter so people talked less about a proposed clash. When what they in reality did was call each other out and try to build interest in a fight that apparently to you was never going to happen.

 

I have heard the excuses, but here are the facts! By early October AJ and Parker had no intention to fight each other - as the fight had to happen before 16 of January (one year after AJ won the title) by this time it should have been announced. Instead they were both looking at other fights, but not the mandatory title fight! Remember they both got their respective status on the understanding that they have to fight within a year from the AJ v Martin fight. All this talk of building up the fight by fighting bums and how it is Price or Pulev's fault for them not to make the fight happen is garbage. The truth is simple - they had no intention of doing it, preferring instead to go on a bum feast. Their actions make this clear. And while I was impressed by Parker's win against Takam I am not impressed with his selection of opponents since then.

 

Your spouting your opinion and claiming it is facts, you have no idea what there intentions were, you're simply speculating, just like I am, but you're claiming it as fact.

So according to you, by early October 3.5 months prior to the mandatory date they should have reasonably already made and announced the fight. Yet here we are in mid October and Joshua still hasn't officially announced his fight with Wlad in December some 2 months away and Parker is yet to finalise a possible fight with Ruiz Jr in Dec or January. I guess based on your logic as they haven't officially announced these fights, by your timescale, these fights are just never going to happen as according to your logic if they had the intention of going ahead with these fights they'ed already be officially announced.

And you also call Joshua going to fight Wlad a bum fight, really? You have lost all credibility with that statement.

 

I called their PREVIOUS opponents bums, which I believe is true for a champion and a mando. I've never mentioned Wlad in that category, so spare me the judgement. It is not my opinion that the mandatory defense of the IBF title was to be within 12 months of AJ v Martin - those were the IBF rules. BTW, this has been discussed at length on thee very pages. I judge their intentions by their actions, which are clear - no fight negotiations announced and no date yet.

Regarding your comments about my logic - neither the Wlad fight nor a potential WBO one with Ruiz were options (still are not officially) two weeks ago, so it stands to reason for this not to have been under discussion for months. The mandatory IBF title defense has been there since the beginning of the year and with 16 of January being the expected deadline, if A and Parker had any intention of fighting each other we would either have had a firm date or be towards the end of negotiations. You know very well, that for a fight of that caliber it would take time to organize a proper event, hype it and sell it.

In order to avoid this turning into a personal abuse, as you are apparently trying to do - here is my offer:
They fight by the 17 of January, as they should according to standard IBF rules - I'll apologize here to them and admit you were right.
They do not make the mandatory fight within this time frame - you'll apologize and admit I was right on this very thread

 

Feed Parker to King Kong Ortiz

Good test fir both

 

Bad choice for Parker - remember what Ortiz did to Jennings...

 

Parker v Joshua may yet happen in Jan.

 

Ftfy. My hat is off to AJ for potentially taking on Klitschko as a voluntary defense however AJ does seem to be getting near peak and Klitschko seems like he may be aging quite quickly - it may be a bit of a gamble that this may be a ripe for the taking fight where they face a legend when they don't have to and defeat him before his name has lost it's mystique then earn a huge reputation for not dodging, but be managed by Hearn so that Ortiz and Joshua don't actually end up facing each other anytime soon, but have it not look like either are ducking.

 

But is the Parker - Ruiz fight actually going to happen? Doubts are surfacing.

 

It will only happen if the WBO sanction it for their title, and the WBO haven't decided on that yet.

Last heard they were looking at the possibility of 4 fighters contesting their vacant title.

 

So you called there previous opponents a bum feats right? So according to you they preferred to fight these guys instead of fighting each other when there was no pressure to fight each other as Parker wasn't even mandatory and in place for a shot at Joshua until he beat one of these supposed bums Takam to earn that. You talk like Joshua has had the belt forever and been ducking Parker as mandatory and Parker ducking the title holder when the facts are Joshua has only had the IBF title for 6 months and Parker has only been mandatory for less than 5 months.

God forbid a title holder have a voluntary or 2 before his mandatory is even in place, god forbid a number 1 contender only be in that position for a few months before being accused of ducking. Your definition of what is ducking is laughable, a total joke, it's unbelievable that after just a few months that this fight hasn't happened, despite getting quite close to happening prior to Wlad becoming available, that people are already throwing around accusations of ducking.

Also 12 months after AJ/Martin is April 2017 not Jan. But that's beside the point the IBF mandated they fight in Jan and have negotiations done by early November a date we hadn't even reached yet. Had Wlad not become available they would of still had a full month to finalise a deal but according to you that must be too short and means they didn't want the fight, which is again speculation not fact. Must rational people would wait of the mandated date for final negotiations to be reached before insinuation a duck but clearly your view on this issue is not rational.

You clearly didn't understand my criticism of your logic by your response I will leave it at that as clearly in terms of logic we think differently.

As for your offer it's a joke we all know the fight isn't happening, both sides have found better options. Joshua is looking for a more prestigious and tougher fight against Wlad and Parker is likely to fight Ruiz Jr. They have chosen these fights because it's the better option not because they are ducking each other.

 

This. Both AJ and Parker are happy to delay the title fight by anywhere from a few months to maybe a year, how is that a duck if both sides are happy?

Besides, boxing fans are not getting short-changed either, we get one top-notch fight in AJ-Klitschko and another excellent one in Parker-Ruiz Jr, and then the winners face off.

 

Exactly, it's been pretty clear from what both sides are saying that neither are scared to take the fight, both were happy to take it if Joshua couldn't find another opponent for his Nov date.

But both sides want to build the fight. Hearn and AJ know a clash is inevitable, if they remain undefeated, but it has the potentially to be a much bigger fight that it currently is in terms of money. Parker is younger and needs more time to develop and are happy to delay their mandatory shot until when they think they will have a better chance and more importantly have a bigger pot and more leverage to get a bigger share of that bigger pot.

But you have people to eager to call a duck at every opportunity. Joshua fights Wlad instead of Parker, so it's a duck, Parker doesn't sit on the side lines rotting or facing nobodies but looks to grab an opportunity to grab another belt so it's a duck. My god if this is the criteria for a duck then every fighter is ducking everyone, it's ludicrous.

 

I am so VERY IMPRESSED by Joseph Parker both as the FIGHTER HE IS -&- by his standards. I'm calling him the HVY.Wt. divisions #1 roll model in modern.
The Training video's is what grabs me. This guy is too great. He's supurb in every way.
Him and Anthony Joshua aught to be something special.