Nikolai Valuev vs. Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Oct 13, 2016.


Who would win?

  1. Valuev UD

    7 vote(s)
    20.0%
  2. Valuev KO

    5 vote(s)
    14.3%
  3. Maricano UD

    16 vote(s)
    45.7%
  4. Marciano KO

    7 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That big useless lump valuev would have rocky hammering away at his ribs would be totally destroyed in about four rnds broken ribs and broken will.this fight would be like tyson v anders eckland a total destruction job.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Had Tyson ever fought Eckland.

    And no one ever dented valuev...Haye made him flinch once in the final seconds of his career.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Rocky ain't stopping Valuev. Not in a million years. He would likely win a UD though.
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Please name them for me, as far as I'm aware they would be Mendozy,Rasta Goon,Wankel,and now you.I have no regard or respect for them and none now for you so that's 4 c*nts tgether.I'm happy to be at odds with them if I found myself in agreement with them I would know I was talking sh*t!
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Please name them for me as far as I'm aware they would be Mendozy,Rasta Goon,Wankel,and now you.I have no regard or respect for them and none now for you so that 4 c*nts tgether.I'm happy to be at odds with them if I found myself in agreement I would know I was talking sh*t!
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Please show when I ever threatened you?I don't mind people insulting me , my family is another matter.

    What's got your boxers in a knot is that I have tried to show objectively what a physical problem a 7 foot 300lbs + man presents for a 5'10 185lbs man in a boxing match.I've done so without any of the fantasies you have incorporated in your specious argument. eg Marciano boxing from a height of 3 foot !Exploding on Valuev's jaw etc, its total nonsense. This goes with you solemnly saying Marciano had good balance and the fact that he sometimes fell over when missing punches was just a sign of him being a tremendous puncher.The rest of us got a good laugh out of that one!
    You have no idea how boxing actually works.
    You got snotty because I didn't fall down and worship at the Marciano altar along with you and the other fan boys.
    I haven't said Marciano doesn't win this,I haven't said he cannot,I didn't make the thread and I haven't even voted ! Yet you took personal umbrage at my dispassionate remarks and objective analysis and resorted to gutter references to my family.I've no recollection of ever threatening you and as I stated when you mentioned it, it must have been a joke.So now I'd like you to produce the threat and we can examine it and the context in which is was said.

    You Sir are an immature fan boy and no-one is going to learn an iota of boxing knowledge from you. You have no obligation to treat me with respect and I certainly hold none for you from now on , but you don't involve posters families in your arguments, not if you are a man that is.
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    You've used the term objective analysis over and over again. When have you provided any?

    I'm sorry. But I don't see any analysis here.

    This whole argument goes back to whether or not Marciano's crouch reduced his height in half, which I think I succinctly proved that it often did, by using video footage to support my opinion.
     
  8. Paul Kevin

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    Nikolai Valuev is way huge then his opponent
     
  9. BCS8

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    Just relax. This is the internet.

    Nobody is doing squat to anybody or their family OVER THE INTERNET.

    Reznick is a quality poster most of the time. He happens to be making a fair point in this case.

    If you want genuine garbage head over to General where Some clown is claiming Floyd would have beaten Ward AND Froch at 168 :lol:
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Marciano leaned to the right with his right hand ready to catch on coming he did not fight from a crouching height of 3 foot and he would be unable to land punches from there if he did. It's okay to have heroes ,though most of us grow out of that phase as we age ,you patently have not.Now produce the post in which I threatened your life.
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't bring anyone's family into my arguments and I require the same courtesy from them,end of.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Valuev has been punching down his whole career. I think it would easier for him to find Marciano's jaw than vice versa,whether he could hit hard enough to dent it is another matter,in close, all Valuev has to do is lean on Marciano to totally nullify him.A few rounds of having a 300lbs + monster draped all over you will wear out anyone, even a fighter as superbly conditioned as Marciano.The sheer body mass Marciano would be combating is a huge hurdle to overcome.
     
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  13. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bergeron hurt Valuev as bad as Haye did (that was an obscure fight, so few many people watched it).

    But SNV had great chin - he ate 1000's of punches during his career because he never had any speed or defense, and still never was stopped or dropped.
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    This is the element that too many here seem not understand. If even a slob can manage to make you carry his weight advantage, it's a hard night. If a world class fighter can do it, you have real problems.
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    It seems perfectly reasonable to entertain such an opinion to me, but when the subject is Marciano ,it becomes heresy!