Klitschko stepping up vs Browne. December 10th WBA title

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  1. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    what happened to the day when the paying public got the two best guys to fight each other regularly?
     
  2. Jeremy Kyle

    Jeremy Kyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hes old and been out of the ring a long time now, This is nothing but a tune up fight, AJ would be a mega fight but without a tune up at his age after his first loss in donkey years going straight in with AJ is not the best of ideas imo.
     
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  3. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. A tune up world title fight lol.

    Wlad is ducking Joshua as Browne is the easier fight.

    He sees less risk fighting Browne and clearly doesn't want to run the risk of losing again.
     
  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    The real question is what are the terms if Wlad won against Joshua? Surely there's 2-3 options Hearns wants on Wlad if Wlad comes WITHOUT the WBA or any other strap. Wlad at this point is simply a voluntary challenger. Wlad has always said he will never sign any options with anyone because he will either be the mandatory challenger or he will fight unifications.

    Wlad fighting Browne might simply mean he needs to get the WBA belt to get 50/50 no options terms with either Wilder or AJ.
     
  5. Loudon

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    I agree with you, but he'll use Browne as a tune up.

    I think there's a very good chance of him fighting Joshua next year, where there'll be more at stake.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's exactly how I see it.

    I'm fine with this as long as we see a Joshua fight next year.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's sensible at this stage.

    As long as he still fights Joshua next year, nobody should have a problem.
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    Sorry , but the sensible option is to get AJ now before he gets better and he is only getting better with each fight while Wlad is declining further.

    Wlad beat Browne type opponents his whole career. Now the division is better and he still wants to fight Browne's.
    He hasn't said anything about a future AJ fight so you have no guarantee it will ever happen.

    Mayweather didn't mess about fighting Club levellers when the opportunity was there to get an un-ripened Canelo.

    The fight is there for Wlad right now and it doesn't want it. Time is not on his side either. Its just another reason why this guy was never an ATG.
    Nobody wants to see this joke of a fight.
     
  9. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did Mayweather sign rematch clauses and options to Canelo?
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    I don't know , did he?
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    lol@ Wlad talking about prestige . He dragged what what once the most prestigious division in boxing through the gutter with 10 years of cheat tactics inside and outside of the ring . :facepalm::shakehead:
     
  12. Loudon

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    I respect your opinion, and I agree that he's not mentioned about fighting AJ in the future. Although he can't at the moment, because he's still awaiting on whether or not he can fight Browne. But if that's confirmed, I think he will mention it. But if he doesn't and a future fight with AJ doesn't happen, then I will be extremely disappointed.

    I understand where you're coming from in saying that AJ will improve with each fight, but Wlad hasn't fought for a year after a poor showing against Tyson. So I think he really needs another fight beforehand just to shake off the rust and give himself a lift. I think he has a much better chance of beating AJ if he takes another fight first. And if he beats Browne convincingly, it should give him the confidence and the motivation to try and unify the other belts afterwards. It would also be better for Hearn if he could market a fight between AJ and Wlad for 2 belts, especially if Wlad's coming off of a win. At the moment, he's seen as the ageing legend who's been out a year. If it could be made next year, it would be a bigger fight with more at stake. It's win-win for everyone as long as Wlad can beat Browne and a fight with AJ can be made afterwards. With more time to promote it, it could be held at Wembley or somewhere.

    I understand perfectly why people will accuse of him ducking. But I'm going to give a pass unless he doesn't end up fighting AJ.
     
  13. dinovelvet

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    Thats all well and good and I don't have an issue with him taking a tune-up. But if he's good enough to fight for one belt , he should be good enough to fight for another.
    He basically saying- i want to become world champion by fighting this guy , but not that guy.

    Wlad taking on Browne means we get two bum championship fights now when we could've got one great one. No circumstance can condone this pusisfied behaviour in my book.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Well, people are saying it's a "strange move" or a "disappointment" that Wlad might go for an "easier" fight, when in fact it is the norm and to be expected.

    Well, you've been vocal that it would be an "easy" fight for AJ.
    And a "mismatch".
    Now you're suggesting Wlad is a disappointment for not taking the fight.
    In light of those statements it seems that you're disappointed that a 27-year-old up-and-comer isn't getting the chance to make a name for himself by brutally smashing up a 40-year-old shell with a 'name'.
    That's quite clear, and the scenario is a fact of boxing life. It's the common cycle.

    So let's not pretend that it's all about "the best fighting the best".
     
  15. Loudon

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    He's going to capitalise on the circumstances.

    Fighting Browne should be easy enough for him. (no disrespect intended towards Browne)

    I just think he's been smart.

    If he beats Browne, he's got options.

    If he loses to AJ now, he's got nowhere at all to go.

    Boxing is as much mental as what it is physical. Wlad's been inactive, he's frustrated with his performance against Tyson, and he hasnt had a win in 18 months. I don't think he's mentally ready to fight AJ at this stage. Although AJ will keep improving, again, I think Wlad would have a much better chance if he fights someone else beforehand. And I honestly don't see why he wouldn't fight AJ afterwards. He knows he's coming to the end of the road, so fighting WBA mandatories (if he was to beat Browne) would be completely pointless. So I honestly believe he'd target AJ, Wilder or whoever the WBO champ was afterwards.