Who do you rate higher as an ATG and why? W Klitschko or E Holyfield

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  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Toney was an atg because of his supreme defensive skills counter punching ability and cast iron jaw
     
  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then why did he repeatedly test dirty for steroids... he was a cheat nothing more improved strength and stamina can make you better then you really can make you a better countet puncher as you do not tire as easily same with defensive skills even chin is helped as you are more likely to be stopped when tired. are and Toney pissed dirty several times how many fights was he not caught.
     
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  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Lol steriods make that make you a slick counter puncher where do I sign up
     
  4. JL Fighter

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    This +1.
     
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  6. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield.....too easy
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Holyfield, and not by a little
     
  8. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They can give you increased stamina and power which does make you a more effective counter puncher especially as a fight wears on and can keep your opponent wary of your counters... if you cannot see that simple fact you have your head up your backend.
     
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    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It wasn't long ago when Klit fans said he was even greater than Ali.
    I guess they've figured out how ignorant that sounds and downgraded to Holyfield, but I think the bar is still too high. You should keep lowing the bar until you get to the Bert Cooper level.
     
  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    P4P Holyfield.

    Heavyweight Wlad.

    Pretty cut and dried for me.
     
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    I could go with that. Holyfield was a serious overachiever given his weight.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Seems to me guys are voting with nostalgia and aren't looking at the plain facts, which show that Wlad fought more, won more, lost less and against comparable opponents did better.

    Tell Holyfield that Byrd says hi.
     
  13. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield is higher in the ATG stakes (including his CW achievements of course) but I'd pick a prime Wlad h2h due to the size difference.
     
  14. RacingBeat

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    This,

    Has Wlad thrown a body shot in his entire career? I challenge anyone to post a gif
     
  15. RacingBeat

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    Butterbean had more wins than Wlad where does he rate