How Many Former Sub 200lbsHeavyweight Champions & Contenders Would Be Ranked Now?

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

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    Yes plentiful but that means absolutely nothing in terms of skill. Would it make a difference if there were 3 or 300 low quality fighters that made up a division? The division would still be low quality. Quantity does not change that. More dangerous is a perspective and we would have to analyze the super heavies of Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey's era. I don't think you want to do that right now. I will say that it is my opinion that Jess Willard at his best could take on any super heavy of today and would without a doubt hold a title.
     
  2. reznick

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    We should expect prime Willard to be the lineal HW champ today, and nothing less.
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    I don't see him out pointing Fury.

    And which two of the top ten would you favour him over?
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    Charles Martin was ranked in most top 10s for a few months based on almost nothing and a mediocre guy with a twisted ankle.
    Antony Joshua makes plenty of top 5s based, I suppose, on beating Charles Martin.
    The bar is so low it is laughable.
    Wilder's ranked #2 by RING magazine.
    Haye is ranked #9 , he had two tomato can set-ups this year and he hasn't been in with a real opponent for several years.

    I don't think being under 200 pounds would matter much.
    If you can put 15 wins together and get some publicity you can be ranked.
     
  5. mcvey

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    This is what I was looking for logical breakdowns. I wasn't making the case for the big guys just trying to get some objective evaluation of them and how they would shape up to the smaller and usually classier guys.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    I think it's hard to say exactly how many of those smaller guys would make the cut now.
    I'm guessing quite a few, based on what I've already stated in my previous posts.
    Obviously the likes of Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey would do it without much problem. I'm sure we can find 20 or 30 heavyweights right now they could KO over the span of a couple of years, and only 1 or 2 of those would need to be in the fringe contender/decent journeyman category.

    I'd reckon Archie Moore, Jerry Quarry, Max Schmeling, Jack Sharkey, Doug Jones, Billy Conn, Jersey Joe Walcott, Floyd Patterson, Ezzard Charles, Eddie Machen and numerous others would have managed it too, but for me it's certainly something that favours the "quick KO artists" among the smaller men, because going 10 rounds with far bigger men is likely to wear down the boxers among them.
     
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  7. reznick

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    What do you mean?
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    Not sure how to re word it.
     
  9. reznick

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    Are you asking me to name two current Heavyweights in the top 10 that Willard would beat?

    It's what it sounds like. Just seems like a random question.
     
  10. mostobviousalt

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    The division has moved on from the days of the colour lines, Willard would crap his pants if he actually had to fight coloured contenders.

    The oaf would get pasted.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Well you said he'd be a lineal champ.

    To do that now he'd have to beat Wlad and then Povetkin. Do you really favour him to do that?
     
  12. reznick

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    Uh, yeah.

    Do you not favor a prime Willard to beat both?
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    God no.
     
  14. reznick

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    Interesting. I think prime Willard would definitely be favored to beat them both
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    I see him losing both fights by shutout