How Many Former Sub 200lbsHeavyweight Champions & Contenders Would Be Ranked Now?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Gassiev will move up and crush some heavyweights.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    How can a guy 220-225 be classified as a cruiserweight?

    If the guys around 210-230 were good enough they would get the opportunities. If one came along bowling over everyone in devastating fashion he would rise to the top. I'm not buying it that he wouldn't.

    I agree the Heavyweight division has gone thru a couple of boring era's. I've not been much excited about it since Lewis retired. I do think the lack of a top American heavyweight has contributed to the division's decline as without one there no-where near as much hyperbole, fanfare or media exposure. It's been an extremely quite decade.
     
  3. choklab

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    What I want to know is how many are natural superheavyweight? There's a lot of guys who could make 220 who fight well over this. And that is fair to say.

    And as for the genuine big tall guys It was always difficult for giants to perform as a boxer until "modern training".

    The superheavyweight is mostly an artificial species chasing the money.
     
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  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I have a hunch that if the money was below 225 all these super heavyweights would become heavyweights again pretty damn quick.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    That's not a firm retirement statement.
    It's like saying he broke his leg or he's taking time off for some other reason.
    Fury's statement was, I think, clearly intended towards the sanctioning bodies' politics that make life difficult for all fighters. Rather than go through the farce of being stripped and upset the careers of other boxers further, better to just relinquish those belts.

    Fair enough, remove him from the championship position, but don't go calling it "lineal".
    It seems to me the TBRB are just taling the policies of the alphabet boys and the prejudices of modern fans, rather than upholding a consistent purist view of the championship succession.
     
  6. dempsey1234

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    JT, How can a guy 220-225 be classified as a cruiserweight?

    Maybe you didnt understand SMALL HW who are 220-225, cruisers are 200pd max

    If the guys around 210-230 were good enough they would get the opportunities. If one came along bowling over everyone in devastating fashion he would rise to the top. I'm not buying it that he wouldn't.
    Thats the point there are no good 210-230pd guys coming up, who besides Joshua and Wilder? You are correct if another Tyson came up, but there arent any. A guy who could in the future become a powerhouse is Murat Gussiev.

    I agree the Heavyweight division has gone thru a couple of boring era's. I've not been much excited about it since Lewis retired. I do think the lack of a top American heavyweight has contributed to the division's decline as without one there no-where near as much hyperbole, fanfare or media exposure. It's been an extremely quite decade.
    You are correct here. American big guys may have quite a few other options in other sports. Sad but you are right.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    Bit like when Ali lost his championship by boycotting the draft.

    I don't think there'll ever be full agreement by everyone again unless a man unifies every single championship claim.