Which current HWs are better punchers than Marciano?

Then modern training evolved. He would have looked exactly like Barbados Joe Walcott otherwise.

 

Ortiz is a very heavy handed puncher

 

My point is no boxer would have become an ATG without extreme dedication to training at some point in their career. Solely picking out Marciano as though he's an exception is way off mark IMO.

 

Tyson at 14
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Is Tyson fat in any of these pictures/video?

 

Note the words "before he started training."

 

One of the worst dives I've seen....

 

And yet glass jawed David Haye left the ring after 12 round completely unhurt. Wlad don't even rank above a guy like Tua for raw power.
In terms of jabs, he doesn't make the top 10. Ever see Wlad drop a guy with a jab? NO.. Ever see Lewis ? Yeah.

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Excellent!

 

When exactly would that be then,when he was 12?

 

Excellent? How so? He was fighting then was he not???

 

You know me B. E. Always shy and retiring.

 

I think Marciano is the subject of the thread? Hence him being the named fighter.

 

And your point is? He was a little lard arse when he walked into the gym and would have been an even bigger lard arse if he hadn't discovered boxing.

 

You are trying to imply that without hard work and dedication Marciano would have been a nobody, all other ATG'S wouldn't have either.....

 

He wasn't a lard arse at 13,14, or 15. I've photos of him from those periods , there is also footage of him in many early amateur tournaments and another poster has shown you to be incorrect in your statement, it's no big deal is it?