"Two Ton" Tony Galento vs Ken Norton

This is an odd thing to ask, when he didn't have the opportunity to fight a single one. Maybe if SHWs were so inherently good, there would've been a few for him to fight.

True power is a discovery, not something you are inherently born with. Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis said so. I know first hand that this is the case. I had no business being a power puncher, but I developed my power for years, and now I can hit harder than heavyweights.

Ali wasn't a power puncher because he chose a different path. If Joe Louis was his hero, and he practiced punching like Joe Louis every day, he could probably punch like Louis. Hand injuries are more technique than genetics.

Which of Wilder or Joshua opponents are better than HW lineal champion Jersey Joe Walcott?
Rocky scored 43 KOs' in 49 fights. This is after retiring from being the lineal HW champ with a handful of defenses.
Let's see how these guys do.

Wilder and Joshua are having great careers so far. I wouldn't take anything away from them.
But are you telling me that they are better punchers than any power hitter in the past who let someone go the distance with them?

 

Tysons style was not sustainable because of style of the shorter aggressive one, not punch out put . Marciano /Frazier both similar stature also had short primes ,the difference was Marciano had it easier bc of fighting shorter guys . Holyfield in a sence as well but his 6'1 frame kept him more relevant longer as POSSIBLE peds as well fighting the tall guys as well.


The video you put up is only a demo ,its pretty clear Tysons impact when he hit much more durable guys to the under 200 pounders Marciano hit ,show in reality who was the better k.o puncher.

 

I'm asking you to answer my question.


Punchers are born, not made.

 

It's true that being a swarmer gives you a shorter shelf life, but in Tysons case, his style wasn't sustainable even across the distance of a single fight.

 

I basically did. Marciano didn't KO any class SHWs, because there were none. But maybe try asking less loaded questions.

Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis said punchers are made. Shavers says they are born. I personally think they are made. Perhaps it's both.

Here's a question for you, since I answered yours. How many HW lineal champions have Wilder or Joshua knocked out?

 

No you didn't answer mine. Its not important ,your mind is closed on certain subjects

 

I answered it directly.
It looks like the problem is not my closed mindedness, but rather your lack of comprehension.

 

Clearly you havent studied Tysons fights like you have Marciano who fought at a slower pace than Tyson anyway.

 

I think generally Tyson fought a faster pace than Marciano in round 1.

Do you think generally Tyson fought a faster pace than Marciano in round 12?

 

Yes in some fights ,but the punch out put is only one dimension of being in peak physical condition as Tysons energy also was concentrated on constant ring cutting /head movement and counter punching ,had he planted down on every punch he probably gets less k.os because the fighters he fought were taller and moved a lot more, they never stood directly in front of him by choice,everyone knew that was suicide.Only Ruddock did that abut he was 6'3 240 pounds.

 

Guys like Walcott and Charles were really hard to catch too.

 

Yes but Marciano has less distance to make up than Tyson did...fighters feared Tyson to the max of getting hit.Watch 6'5 Biggs literally try running around the ring popping the jab .Theres a big difference being 5'10 against such opponets than the less mobile smaller ones the Rock had to face.

 

How do you think C*ckell ,and Lastarza would react to getting hit by Joshua or Wilder ? How about a 37 years old Walcott or a 40 years old Moore getting tagged by that current duo?
Does C*ckell go 9 rounds with either Joshua or Wilder?

Does Lastarza go10 & 11 rds?
Does Ancient Moore go 9 rds ? He couldn't go 5 with Patterson a year later.
Does Ted Lowry177.75lbs & 180.75lbs go the distance twice with either?
Does 11-14-2 Willis Applegate ,who had lost his last 5 fights go the distance with Joshua or Wilder?
Does Gino Buonvino 24-14-8 who had been stopped by light heavyweight Nick Barone in his previous fight ,and stopped prior to that by Lee Savold ,and light puncher Roland Lastarza go into the 10th and last round against either of them?
You decide."

Not MY lack of comprehension.

 

But when Biggs is running away, Tyson slowly walks him down. In fact, besides his signature slipping technique, Tysons first round is very Marciano esque.

Look at this:
Marciano fought 10 guys 200lb or over. There is no correlation that shows his heavy opponents lasted longer. Even if you think those big guys weren't skilled, then you'll have to also admit that the smaller guys who lasted longer weren't either.

Off the top of my head, I think if you look at most resumes of the great punchers, you will not find that correlation. But I could be wrong.

 

Tyson seldom had to go into the 12 rd. Of his 50 stoppages only 4 went past half way,2 into the 6th, 2 in to the 7th.