Evander Holyfield vs Vitali Klitschko

Bowe was a better puncher and a better jabber than Vitali. Foreman was a better jabber than Vitali. Vitali got out jabbed by useless bum Kingpin Johnson. How the hell does he keep Holy at the end of his jab?

The Manny Stewart trained jab Holy used to beat Bowe in the rematch was unlike anything Vitali ever dealt with in his life. No way he deals with that triple hammer step inside piston like jab. Evander would be out of range and before you know it he'd be in your grill whipping in a series of hooks clean off your dome. The way Vitali keeps his hands low he may as well have a bullseye inked into his forehead.

Beating Bowe once is a hell of a lot better than losing to an ancient shot Lewis.

This right here is what invalidates your entire post.
Vitali was never a pressure fighter . EVER. He fought from mid range at a measured pace. Holyfield could to that. He could also beat you on the back foot and up front as a swarmer. These guys are different levels. Holy is proven at elite. Vitali is a proven failure at elite level.

 

So Vitali won 4 rounds out of a 12 rounder against a terrible version of Lewis? Is that meant to be some sort of achievement?

I'l take Mike Tyson , Foreman , Bowe over an ancient Donald and who? Gomez? Whose he?

 

Bowe had a better jab but didnt use it as a effective as Vitali did ,Bowe didnt dictate fights off the jab like Vitali did .

Im not comparing resumes ,because the resume of Holyfield isnt going into the ring here , Holyfield is . lol


When using LIKE opposition that would leave ,Lewis who both fought, Bowe , and they are the only two who rival Vitali . That doesnt give Holyfield the edge here , and when you see he has not looked good against taller fighters its a safe bet a 6'7 250 pounder does well with a 6'1 210 pounder for reasons i addressed already , theres nothing anyone can discredit here , sorry. You also made up that i said Vitali was a pressure fighter ,clearly you troll here but its blatantly obvious when you misquote someone .

 

You said he brings constant pressure. No he didn't. You lie . You troll.

Holy is more proven against big guys than Vitali is against smaller guys with good movement who can slip , parry and counter.

Vitali's career was very carefully selected. He fought the same style over and over. There's no evidence to suggest he beats any elite all time great fighters. fanboi.

 

No , i clearly said Holyfield will bring pressure vs the lean back counter puncher Vitali (maybe u you cant read ,which is another matter) , either way ive read all your posts here ,clearly you are the class clown here so no need to further school you on your misleading points you have practically everyone here that did it already !

 

You're right . Chalk it down to a freudian slip on my part. This is what happens when you try to do multiple things at once.
It still doesn't make Vitali any better than Holyfield though

 

I think both Byrd and even Kevin Johnson had a better defence than Holyfield who really wasn't that great defensively

But offensively Holyfield is leagues ahead of those two yea.

 

Holyfield has a better resume,resumes don't fight ,the fighters do. Anyone picking Holyfield to win has not studied Vitali really and dismisses the huge size advantage that gives vitali the biggest edge here.Is Holyfield a better fighter than Vitali? Yes.Could he defeat Vitali? yes Who at 6'7 250 has the edge here? Vitali. and its beyond size the guy COULD fight and was tough and would be tougher than Holy had ever seen with the counter style and heavy hands.

 

I think you crazy. Kevin Johnson isn't going any 12 rounds with Holyfield. Where was Byrds defence when Ibeacuhi blew through him ?

 

How do you get a good resume? By fighting.. Beating better guys = better resume. Thats why Holy has a better resume. He beat better men.
Size isn't a skill. Byrd with a tiny reach beat Vitali . His size was not a factor.

 

Where was Holyfield's defence against so much of his opposition?

 

His size was definatly a factor against the much elusive Byrd who doesn't win without the shoulder injury.Wlad crushed Byrd who is smaller than his older brother,you are delusional to make such a point that size does not benefit any fighter with skills like the klitchkos.

 

Again, massive difference in terms of opposition faced.

Holyfield fought at a much, much, much higher level. Sanders who is Vitalis marquee win was nothing in the 90s and got knocked out cold by a random bum.

 

Who had good defence against Lewis , Bowe , Foreman and Tyson? You got hit back then. Better era . It was unavoidable.

 

But Ibeauchi didn't have the size and he done Byrd in far more easily than both brothers.
Shoulder injury is just an excuse. Holy fought Byrd for 12 rounds with a blown out shoulder he received in ROUND 1.