Pick a HW to beat Prime Tyson.

Tyson had an interrupted preparation for the Tillis fight,he was in the Mount Sinai Hospital in NY for 2 weeks with a bad ear infection and a damaged ear cartilage.Tillis was a good smart fighter being taken the distance by him was no disgrace.While not a big puncher 31 kos in 42 wins shows Tillis could get your attention when he landed.

 

He put in a great effort, was lacking a great jab in the fight but was catching Mike with some nice hooks and uppercuts to the head and body. One body shot in the 2nd round clearly hurt Tyson. Mike was very sharp too with great body punching. Not many fighters went to Tyson's body and the few shots that did land from Tillis and Holyfield had visible effects on him.

I always think Ruddock should have gone to the body more with his smash instead of headhunting, that shot is perfect for hard body shots.

 

The fight was postponed so Tyson should have been well recovered.
The postponement actually gave the opponent time to prepare for a change. Usually well-managed prospects like Tyson are kept busy and in the gym and know their schedule while the opponents are called in at a later date. This time things were equalized, as it should be more often.

The fight was a good performance from Tyson, and from Tillis.

 

You don't rate experience (against world class opp to boot) and confidence? What did he gain between Canady and Spinks? Do you think the Tyson that beat Canady would beat Spinks, Tucker, Thomas and Berbick?

 

I think Tyson who fought Lorenzo Canady would almost certainly beat Spinks.

 

Butter Bean would have been his toughest fight in the 70's .lol Foreman was afraid to even fight Quarry due to his power as well as Shavers . Butter Bean being a huge puncher and fast starter could pull a Ron Lyle on him and deck himto the floor because he was faster and had a far better chin than Lyle,of course Foreman SHOULD still win here . Elite fighters dont seem to be your thing thats why you didnt answer who Foreman didnt outsized because there was no one of relevance to give a answer too.

 

OMFG.

You are from this point on ignore, goodbye you utter fool.

 

Butter Bean was 6'0 300 pounds who can punch ,so yea i could see Foreman having to k.o Bean out fast as his stamina was also poor ,Foreman was not superman and had poor defence then ,

 

Foreman did not have bad stamina he just did not know how to pace himself in his first career .When an old man he went 12 rds with Holyfield without once using his stool,because he had learned to pace himself. I agree with some others I feel you are trolling to get a reaction with some of your recent responses to threads.

 

True ,but old Foreman was smarter and had a great chin and improved jab ,that Foreman deals with aggressive punchers more effectively than wild Foreman of the 70's .

 

Perhaps we should discuss all the fighters who would have prevailed over the Clay of the Jones fight, or the Frazier of Bonavena, or the Foreman of Peralta...

 

His chin and jab were the same ,and your resistance to punches does not improve when you're a comparatively old man, neither does your stamina!

 

I disagree weight puts more punch resistance in your favor because stronger legs will let you increase durability the longer the fight goes . Stamina doesnt fade either if you are throwing less punches ,Foreman himself said he wasnt much into cardio until his comeback and attributed to being stronger when he started doing strong man trainging and weights . I dont really think Jimmy Young knocks a 250 plus Foreman down ,the one who ate Morrison left hooks and 20 unanswered shots from Holyfield , the comparison is really a large van to a bus in what fighters had to face from the 70's to that of the 90's .

 

Is it fair to use the Tony Tucker fight to assess prime Tyson's skills and abilities ?

 

Foreman has said he didn't use the stool because standing up was too tiresome for him.

George averaged less than 40 punches per round against Holyfield with about half the punches thrown being jabs.
Not bad for an old man though.


Not knowing how to pace yourself certainly didn't benefit him in his earlier career.
Young George was also a lot more tense than Old George.

Old George was a very different fighter from Big George.
The cross arm defence, his transition towards a boxer-puncher, so relaxed, using his physical strength and size to his advantage, Old George's punches were also a bit tighter.


I think Young George's his lack of stamina was partly because he didn't pace himself but also because he was a very tense fighter. (sort of like Bruno, but Bruno is an extreme example of a tight fighter. While Foreman was comparatively just a little tight)