Vitali Klitschko (1999) vs Zaire Ali (1974)

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Lewis was the undisputed champion. There literally was no one more dangerous for Vitali to face.
     
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    why are you in denial that he faced weakest lewis ever?

    tell me why you are trying to tell me that comparing like for like (old ali with old lewis) is wrong.
     
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    we've been here before, foremans resume has several big guys on it.

    its on you to prove otherwise. you cant. this is why you havent tried.
     
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    Foreman was never outsized against a credible opponent ,no. His resume shows that so that is the proof.
     
  5. BCS8

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    Tko6 ... 3...2...1 ...
    Byrd outboxed Vitali 3...2...1...
    Flop Mate 3...2...1...
    DinoHerol 3...2...1...

    Ah, yes. The classics.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    Was that a weaker Lewis than the one from the pro debut?

    Or a weaker Lewis than the one from the McCall loss?

    Or a weaker Lewis than the one from the Rahman loss?

    What's wrong is your sick jokes about Parkinsons, like your sick jokes about Calzaghe the other week. You have no morals.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    it goes without saying that we are talking about world level fights, and not fights when lennox lewis was in nappies in the kindergarten.
    but kudos if you want to throw in scraps in junior school too. kudos to your stupidity.

    yes weaker of course thatn from the McCall win. He was nearly 38.

    yes weaker than the one from the rahman win. He was nearly 38. Apolgies that you clearly requite the point repeated to you twice.

    why is my point becoming a joke when YOU and ONLY YOU read it? Whos sick again?
     
  8. HerolGee

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    his record shows he faced several opponents as big. I think you are looking at vitalis record, that guy with a loss to a middleweight.

    However that fact doesnt make me believe that vitali couldnt beat big opponents, that theory only seems to work for you.

    Wow destroyed by your own argument. Why you wanna self destruct your own posts anyway?
     
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    Please. Look at the competition they faced. Vitali has not even beaten a HOF.

    Ali by lopsided decision
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    Lewis from Vitali > Lewis from McCall.

    Requite?

    I don't know why you feel the need to make jokes of that calibre.
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Ali loses. Rope a dope would not work vs someone has smart and long as Vitali is. Vitali out works Ali, possibly stopping him late
     
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    barring a cut stoppage or some fluke injury ( which only happened twice in Vitali's 47 fights ) I think Klitschko wins. While Muhammad Ali was still magnificent in 1974 and pulled off a near impossible win over an ATG, his abilities were waning by this stage. Ali would need to be at the absolute height of his powers to overcome the size disparity and fighting style of this type of opponent, and by the mid 70's those abilities were diminished.
     
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    Foreman couldn't stop Ali , but Vitali could? Based on him stopping who?
     
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    If 32 year old Ali is good enough , then what version of Ali is capable in your eyes?