Who do you rate higher as an ATG and why? W Klitschko or E Holyfield

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bailey, Oct 16, 2016.


  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You still havent answered and were not watching the fights as they happened. You havent been able to point to what the decline was before Moorer 1 to the Mercer fight where Holyfield looked very impressive, and cant say how Holyfield was a shell of what he was after the 2nd Bowe loss when there was the Mercer fight previously. You cant answer and I can only guess its because you dont know or cant make a sensible answer.
    You would be better off commenting on eras you are old enough to recall and actually watched
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Do you enjoy watching Holyfield fights?
     
  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The 00s and teens are/were bummy eras
     
  4. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield all the way....His opposition was worldclass where Wlad fought in the weakest era ever...H2H Holyfield takes Wlad out inside 6 rounds...
     
  5. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Without Vitali there's no Wlad reign. Very unlikely Wlad beats Corrie Sanders in a rematch and then where would he have been? Wlad's next fight after Corrie Sanders he barely survived a journeyman he was so ruined.
     
  6. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Holyfield, I rate as high as Apple pie.
    Klitschko, I rate as high as a rhubarb pie.
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I did at that time. Was my favourite HW boxer for years.
    Massive heart, great technician
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Then watch his fights again and see if your opinion changes.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont need to. I am not comparing Holyfield being the same from when he fought Lewis to Bowe 1, but am saying that after being unwell against Moorer, he took time out and looked very impressive in his fight after and didnt look suddenly favoured at that moment, which is what you have been claiming without being able to give an answer as to how. Once again, watch the Mercer fight and try and make a sensible debate.
    I dont mind people trolling a bit, but you are carrying it on without answering at all which becomes boring
     
  10. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield has the better resume and boxing skills.
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Do you know the definition of insanity?
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    If you touch Wladimir he becomes a nervous wreck. Thats why he has to have a ref on his side to help him win.
    I wouldn't put him in the top 50 tbh
     
  13. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Yes I do. It's arguing endlessly over something which is ultimately subjective and thinking there could be any kind of resolution. Your opinions are so diametrically opposed and - as is tradition in online debate - neither is prepared to budge an inch. That said, it's an interesting read and food for thought. Kudos.
     
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I've asked him to watch some fights and make his own mind up. Bailey loves to argue with boxrec and stats and figures. He doesn't so much like to watch the actual fights.

    Throughout I've maintained that for me his performances from MM onwards are not as good as they were before MM. If he disagrees that is his opinion.
     
  15. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    holyfield= fought better fighters