Stiverne fails drug test.

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  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Precisely
     
  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually one PED cheat stivern... povetkin was already cleared as it was legal when he took it. but hey why let facts get in the way.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Povetkin took a PED period he's a cheat. I have no problems with two cheats fighting each other like I didn't have a problem with Vargas-Salido either.
     
  4. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I'm not sure the English language you think you see you actually see...
     
  5. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Well, that is actually incorrect since Povetkin technically didn't take any forbidden substance, and naturally he was never banned or fined.
     
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  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PED cheats only matter when it matters to him. lol
     
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  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Why would he? Bermane took a currently banned substance, Povetkin did NOT. Is that so hard for you to understand?
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He took a Ped the **** he took is currently banned. Just because he took it a few months before it was banned doesn't mean **** to me. Povetkin knew he was taking something that was going to enhance performance otherwise he wouldn't have taken in. He's as much a cheat as stiverne is. You ****bois can play dumb all you want. People like me know the deal.
     
  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Everyone takes stuff to enhance their performance you idiot. Why take any supplements then? The issue is whether it is illegal or not. It was not when he took it. Bermane took something that was already illegal when he took it. **** is as simple as it gets but you still don't get it.
     
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  10. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I know it's complicated, but people are really getting this wrong all over the place. Povetkin may have taken a PDF that was banned at the time. He got conflicting and confusing results. WBC made a good call in a tough situation and split the difference, giving him an interim shot. It would be a bit hypocritical for him to try to back out of this fight now, but would also make Wilder look a bit bad if he goes forward with it.
     
  11. Gannicus

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    The last two years of boxing have been so, so awful.
    This year had only a few big fights - Ward-Kovalev, Lomachenko-Walters (both unknown to casuals), Thurman-Porter and a complete sham of an Olympics.
    One memorable fight against two GOOD opponents - Miura-Salido
     
  12. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Taking performance enhancing substances isn't cheating in and of itself; it only becomes cheating if the substances themselves are prohibited for sporting use. While Meldonium is now banned, there are still a huge number of substances not on WADA's list that could constitute enhancing performance in varying degrees. Why shouldn't a fighter take these if they know they're going to go unpunished for it? To do otherwise would be to deny themselves the best chance of victory within the current rules of the sport.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    The Olympics just banned most of Russian Olympic team for state sponsored Ped use. You think I'm dumb enough to believe povetkin didn't think he was taking peds???
     
  14. drenlou

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    We just got one this past Saturday with that Barnburner that was Ortiz-Scott!!:dancer2:
     
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  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Wtf? Didn't I just say he was? Of course Pov knew he was taking an enhancer, why would he take it otherwise. It was still NOT illegal. His opponent could have taken it too if he wanted to because it was not illegal.