Mayweather in the 60s and 70s

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  1. Mortal

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    You have a cheek you obvious TBE fanboy.

    No he does not have a better Jab. Floyd does have great variety with his Jab and amazing accuracy but both Buchanan and Laguna could do that as good. The difference is Buchanan and Laguna were far more persistent with their jab and pumped it out on the move with far better fluidity than Mayweather ever did.
    As for movement. Floyd had great feet but was a lot more economical with his movement. Laguna and Buchanan were elegant and fleet movers, much more fleet of foot than Mayweather ever was. Both those guys in their primes wouldn't get pinned to the ropes and mauled by the likes of Castillo. They would have ran him ragged and dished him out a pizza face.
    As for counter punching. Buchanan was also a intelligent counter puncher, not as accurate as Floyd but he threw a lot more of them. Laguna's punch variety in the center of the ring was just increadible when he was in full flow.

    Listen I don't have a problem with anybody thinking Mayweather beats both those guys. It's the fact you think he schools those guys like they weren't **** that makes me think you don't know anything about them. Those two are ATG lightweights. Stylistically you couldn't have picked two harder lightweight for Floyd to beat not named Duran. Both had increadible fighting spirits and durability on top of their obvious abilities.
     
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  2. Mortal

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    I believe they do have some similarities but Locche would never have been pinned and mauled by the likes of Castillo and Maidana the way Floyd was.
     
  3. Jean-Yiss

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    Not a fanboy, i just know how styles play into fights and those guys don't have the style to beat or even trouble Floyd. All of floyds closest fights were against fighters who roughed him up on the inside, Buchanan and laguna operated midrange and on the outside, that screams Floyd easy UD for me.
     
  4. Jean-Yiss

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    Based on? locche was featherfisted, and floyds shoulder was injured in the in the Castillo fight, i don't know how most people forget to mention that
     
  5. Mortal

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    I suggest you actually watch them so you can grasp their styles and how good they actually were.

    Floyd never fought anybody who moved and jabbed with the speed and fluidity of Buchanan and Laguna in his entire career. You don't know anything about styles.

    And to top it off both could fight on the inside as well as box mid to long. Especially Buchanan who loved to trade on the inside. Buchanan would've been the complete package if he had one punch power.
     
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  6. Mortal

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    Floyd isnt exactly blessed in the power department either. Was the shoulder injury proven? Even the second Castillo fight without the so called injury Floyd struggled. He won that fight but still had lots of problems with Castillo.
     
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  7. Jean-Yiss

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    Why would I mention Floyd easily beating them if I didn't watch them lol did you even read my opening thread post???
     
  8. Jean-Yiss

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    Laguna has losses to Vicente saldivar(who?), flash elorde(who?), and eugenio Espinoza(who?). Floyd would've made those guys look foolish
     
  9. Mortal

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    To come to the conclusion Floyd Mayweather who didn't look great at lightweight would school two of the most intelligent stylists in lightweight history with ease leads me to believe you haven't watched much of them. Those two wouldn't allow Floyd to dish out no schooling. They weren't just brilliant boxers they were also both extremely tough warriors.
     
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  10. Jean-Yiss

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    Who is Vicente saldivar?
     
  11. Mortal

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    I take it you just went on boxrec and picked out a few boxers you've not heard of and assumed they're nobody's? Vicente Saldivar was a fvcking machine. Saldivar would've had Floyd shelling up for his fving life.

    You've just embarrassed yourself.
     
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  12. Mortal

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    Ok, I now suspect you're trolling.
     
  13. Jean-Yiss

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    You brought up the Castillo fight as a means to discredit what I was saying, I bring up Laguna's questionable losses and now I'm embarrassing myself? Lol
     
  14. Smokin Bert

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    Yes, you are.
     
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  15. scartissue

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    Jean Yiss, when you say 'who?' to Vicente Saldivar and Flash Elorde, you've just lost your argument. Time to go back to the general forum.