Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Nov 16, 2016.


Still undefeated light heavyweight king:

Poll closed Nov 19, 2016.
  1. Kovalev on points

    13.6%
  2. Kovalev by stoppage

    33.6%
  3. Draw

    4.3%
  4. Ward on points

    47.1%
  5. Ward by stoppage

    1.4%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That is actually kind of shockingly wide for Claressa Shields, even though she was a dominant amateur generally projected to not only make waves in the pros but perhaps usher in a new era of doors opening for women's boxing to push into mainstream crossover appeal.

    They didn't just pick some tomato can (or formerly respected but very faded journeywoman with a recognizable enough name to create the air of a daunting initial foray) as is usually done to showcase a medalist being groomed for the bright lights from day one. Crews was a very successful amateur herself, 8x national champ and nabbed a silver medal at the world championships, and she was eliminated from the Olympic qualifiers in 2012 by none other than Shields' bitter arch-rival Tika Hemingway, in a close match. (Shields was 5-0 versus Hemingway, but all of them were life and death bloodbaths, a couple of them split decisions)

    I'm not saying Claressa ought not be a prohibitive favorite, but something more like 1/10ish seems reasonable. 1/33 makes it seem like she's getting in with a soccer mom who took a few box-fit or Tae Bo classes.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...and yeah, there's a little background info so that if Claressa does score a blitz thirty-second brutal KO you can have some context and not think "oh, cool, whatever, she just annihilated some middle school lunch-lady..." and give her some actual credit for it. Like, the only more ballsy recent debut in the male ranks I can think of is Lomachenko with José Ramírez.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Also too wide for Stevens. JDLR could get the upset if he catches him square on the jaw.
     
  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If I really had to bet say $1000 on this fight and I was to keep the winnings I would be betting on Kovalev via UD.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that Kovalev could stop Ward late, but I think for that to happen Ward would have to be trading and prepared to go out on his sword. I think Ward will run and try to and con a UD and complain about the judges afterwards.
     
  5. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I am slowly moving towards Krusher however a draw is not out of the question if both see the final bell.
    I love how Ward can slow the pace down on the inside but he might get got by big man.
    FK this is going to be chess with a hammer.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Ward's demeanor will be very interesting to watch unfold. This will be his biggest chance maybe ever to increase his market value by taking risks and making it a dogfight...but this also makes him vulnerable.
     
  7. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I don't think Ward can take that risk with the power he is facing in this fight.
    Just my thoughts
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Neither do I, but he can not possibly have insulated himself from seeing - or at some visceral level, just from being a man alone, having an emotional response to - all the criticisms of him in the boxing world (press, social media, forums like this) nor can it have failed to dawn on him that in one fell swoop he can redeem himself and recreate his public image by simply going to war against Kovalev, giving his future earnings potential an exponential increase - and that said opportunity is a one time deal, the pins set up perfectly for him to roll a lucrative strike on the grandest stage of them all. Should this, however, be a hyped but disappointing Mayweather vs. Pacquiao type of dud, his earnings potential will not only stagnate, but plummet for almost certain)
     
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  9. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Very well stated I.B.
    Ward is known to buzz kill the action ;however, that style/skill has kept him undefeated IMO. If, and that's a big IF, he changes it up not only would he throw off Krusher but he would shock the world and possibly gain more fans even if he gets KTFO.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, a loss if he goes out swinging and on his shield doesn't hurt Ward's stock in the slightest (from a future earnings perspective)
     
  11. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Weigh in just finished, both in great shape at 175, long staredown.
    Kov is super relaxed.
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Kovalev is asked whether he respects Ward or plans to knock him out.

    Both, of course, he answers.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Currently sitting @ 56-51-4 AW
     
  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I don't there's any genuine bad blood between the two... Kovalev respects you just so long as you aren't a Haitian-Canadian who happens to be a top 10 LHW. :lol:
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm excited for this WHOLE card - the free HBO portion and the PPV.