Judging the fight. Living in 2 different worlds

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by HellSpawn86, Nov 20, 2016.


  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's been longer than 30 minutes. Look at the time stamps you nutjob lol. All of this because I proved you wrong with facts.

    I love how desperate you are for the last word. First you were too good to reply to me, then you tried to justify the fact that you're still here by claiming that you're bullying me :risas3:. Everyone can see right through you, and your little mental breakdonw.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    plausible scorecard, though I disagree with 3.
     
  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Mate of mine lost a lot of dough on Kov last night. Is hurting and angry.
     
  4. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    again staring at things and compiling lists LOL, like you were all I am looking at on my visit online. You are consumed by me, not the other way around, I just enjoy swatting you that's all, and what kind of legend would I be on here if i didn't grant audience to fans? I only visit these days once in a blue moon.

    I hate to say it, but you were disproved, you can't accept it. You couldn't answer anything given to you, just went off on a crazy rant and accusations. Ward was bullied, bossed and hurt even in 12, 5 punches dont make a round, especially when at least 3 of them were blocked lol.
     
  5. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sometimes I want to give 3 to Ward and 12 to Kovalev.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wanted to see the threads you started, I thought might be an objective fan, and my assumption was wrong. But of course I was spot on about you LOL. I can read you pretty well.

    At least 3 were blocked? I think you're getting the right hand that Ward partially landed confused with the hooks Ward did. I also did not bring up the jabs and body jabs Ward landed. Ward dominated the first 2 minutes of the fight, Kovalev landed some jabs, but nothing effective at all. Kovalev might have hurt Ward at the 1 minute mark after Ward landed his own body shot, but overall Ward had a better round IMO. I did say 6, 12 which I gave to Ward were close in other cards, I was simply arguing against the fact that you said he did "Nothing", which I clearly disproved.
     
  7. The Long Count

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    Larry Merchant said it was a robbery.
    Dan Rafael had it for Kovalev
    Lederman had it for Kovalev.
    Roy Jones said a draw or 1 point Kovalev win.

    These people were all very close to the action. I think it's telling that the wrong person won.

    I myself scored as follows.

    1. Kovalev
    2. Kovalev
    3. Kovalev
    4. Kovalev
    5. Ward (close)
    6. Kovalev
    7. Ward
    8. Ward
    9. Ward (close)
    10. Kovalev
    11. Ward
    12. Kovalev (close)

    7-5 Kovalev plus kd. Or 6-6 Kovalev wins with kd and that is best I can do for Ward
     
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  8. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    It's a shame not more people live on this world you live on, you'd be happier and wouldn't have all the sane people questioning your judgement, the way Kov brilliantly dismantled Wards inside game was superb, the jab that nearly knocked Ward out and had him on ***** street set the tone for the nasty tactics of running, leading with the head, grabbing and hitting on the break. Kov rose above it, busting wards face up, countering him, pushing him back all fight, out working,. out landing and out smarting him, as i said, I will give 4 rounds to Ward where Kov took his foot off the gas, nothing but that, Ward lost and nearly everyone but Drleu and MVC plus a few other unfortunates agree.
     
  9. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    This is pretty accurate and those close ones I would have given Kov based on aggression and being the champion, but if you don't then you still have to give it to Kov, that's being exceptionally kind to Ward to make it close too.
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I only argue with rounds. Not with summaries of how you thought the fight played out. Give me your rounds. Also Rummy had Ward winning and he picked Kovalev to win the fight. Facts are little g fans are all crying robbery, while most unbiased fans are saying it could go either way.
    Here's mine
    R1 10-9 Kovalev
    R2 10-8 Kovalev
    R3 10-9 Ward
    R4 10-9 Kov(close)
    R5 10-9 Ward
    R6 10-9 Ward (close)
    R7 10-9 Ward
    R8 10-9 Ward
    R9 10-9 Ward
    R10 10-9 Kov(close)
    R11 10-9 Ward
    R12 10-9 Ward (close)
     
  11. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it's pretty obvious that there was no robbery here. All that's required is a rematch or maybe two.
     
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  12. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Rummy, the biggest Ward fan there has been since the super 6.....oh well case made.

    My scorecard resembles Longcounts but as i said, I gave the close ones to Kov as he was both the champion and the aggressor, you can't take the titles by not doing any more than your opponent the champion and being on the back foot.
     
  13. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nobody is without bias, whether designed, manufactured or through ignorance and lack of knowledge, regardless of best (truthful) intentions.
     
  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    But you agree that the fight was extremely close right? So if Ward got some of those close rounds you could score it for Ward, therefore it's not a robbery. Close fights aren't robbery. I'm not going to get in a back and forth about rummy and other posters with you, keep it boxing.
     
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. And I was the first to call for a rematch, I just think it's silly how people are crying robbery like it was not a close fight.