Prime Foreman v Prime Tua & Prime Ibeabuchi?

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  1. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    In the same night?
     
  2. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. blackhercules

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    Agreed about Ike. He beat Chris Byrd a blown up light heavyweight with no power and he beat Tua who was so poor of a boxer than slow azz Hasim Rahman easily out boxed him.

    Also Ali didn't make Foreman change his style either. Ali got lucky against Foreman and avoided him instead of giving him a rematch. Ali also didn't lay on the ropes on purpose. According to Ali years later Foreman forced him there and he couldn't get off so his only plan was to hope he wasn't knocked out and to hope Foreman got tired. I get so tired of people just repeating stuff they heard other people said.

    Also Foreman wasn't better when he came back. He was a lot slower, his power was lesser, his punches were much wider. As one person stated Young Foreman would of never lost to Morrison or Briggs or struggled with guys like Axel Schulz.

    Tua was knocked down by Rahman I believe in their second bout. His chin was great but usually when he got hit he would back off a little bit. Young Foreman would of TKO them both and I would pick a old Foreman to win by points.
     
  4. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    george by tko in both fights
     
  5. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    ibeabuchi weighed 230-235 in shape not 240 and he never looked "natural" he was packed of muscle, foreman had bigger frame than ibeabuchi he did not have great mass
     
  6. daverobin

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    styles make fights and both tua and ibeabuchi are tailor made for prime george foreman....tua gets stoped in 6 rds ....ike around the 7th
     
  7. andrewa1

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    Come on, that's too much even for Foreman! Tua would pin George at the front and Ibeabuchi would come up behind him. George would be swamped. You do mean at the same time, right?
     
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  9. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    ibeabuchi was in his peak at 235 pounds and he was not skin and bone exactly, he had big mass, when george weighed 225 he did not look packed of muscle, he looked slender, his frame was very big, he was bigger than ibeabuchi, at 232 against dino denis foreman did not look hulk neither, he looked natural.... if george have wanted to add mass and look like a bodybuilder probably he would have weighed 245 -250 pounds... just like frank bruno so what? it does not make him "bigger" but an useless manufactured body.
    foreman weighed 230 pounds at amateur at 18 years old because he could carry his natural weight for 4 rounds, then he was recommended to decrease the weight in his early pro carrer, of course it would be better for his stamina. at 27-28 he weighed 229-232 pounds and he did not touch a weight in his life, george said that the first time that que did push ups was in 1976.
    "and it took him 7 rounds to stop a washed up 5'6" Frazier clone."

    you forgot to mention that foreman was retired 10 years of boxing and was even older and more washep up than qawi and you mention his "5'6" of height but curiously you forgot to mention that he weighed 222 pounds. and still foreman rag dolled him.
    do you think that anyone will take seriously this biased and imbecile argument?
     
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  10. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    not even a matured man? lol he was fully developed in his early 20s just like tyson
     
  11. richdanahuff

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  12. Mendoza

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    Foreman UD over Tua. Foreman vs Ike, I'll go with Ike via late round TKO. Sorry Foreman fan's he just doesn't have the stamina, and Ike here is not only the bigger fighter, he's also faster.
     
  13. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    yeah, but it is good that anyone ignore your opinion,"ibeabuchi bigger than foreman" wow this forum is getting better and better.
    So you think that he would need the stamina with ike but not with tua(who had even better stamina than ike), if you have picked a stoppage win by george over tua i would not reply this part, but picking foreman by ud in the distance over tua and then using the stamina argument against him vs ike is just laughable... foreman was bigger,stronger and did hit way harder than ibeabuchi who had 20 crappy fights against nobodies and you are saying here that he would beat an all time great that would be bigger,stronger and more powerful than him.
    on the other hand your hero wladimir klitschko can be questioned absolutely cause his crystal chin(like lennox lewis), so yes , if you want 2 winnables fights for ike bingo, wladimir and lewis
     
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  14. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    you said that ike was not a matured man at 26-27(because he retired at that age)... and i told you that he was fully developed (anyone is) at that age, in fact tyson and ike were fully developed in the early 20s , so i don't see any relevance in your comment.... btw tyson never ever weighed 210 pounds in his complete pro career. like i said... this forum is great lmao
     
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  15. GoldenHulk

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    This youngster needs a bit of disciplinary action.