Kovalev vs Ward

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  1. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    even kovalev gave 4 /5rounds to ward.... so it should show you the crap that you scored
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you want to learn something boy come have a word with me, Kovalev won the fight plain and simple. Now if I want your opinion I'll throw you a nut....
     
  3. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    i see i knocked you out, next please
     
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  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You couldn't knock a light out, back to the general section there's a good boy....
     
  5. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    if this nonses is all you got i will not even spend my time with you "boy". The fight was extremely close, i have no problem with anyone who pick kovalev by sd, but only a wanker would give only 2 rounds to ward
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, exactly,...there's a "mad" quality about Kovalev...and he would seem to me to be even more motivated for the rematch, that is if it actually takes place.
     
  7. dinovelvet

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    Every time i watch it i sway more and more to a divisive Ward victory. I watched 3 times now , the 3rd being from the audience perspective which really showed how many shots he actually missed from the 3rd round onwards. He hit a lot of air and i believe his out -put hit the well for fear of being countered.
    Its not often talked about because he has a proven solid chin , but this guy does not like getting touched in the slightest. I saw him get Ward into the corner and against the ropes countless times and then willingly back off and allow Ward get out of danger. Then Ward was able to mount the attack and make first contact again and again which won over the judges.

    Alomost every time Kovalev came at Ward he was naturalized or made to miss. Wards ring generalship was far greater and far more impressive than Kovalevs.
    As was is inside work and over all variety. Krusher just tried to do the same thing over and over and it became less and less effective with each round. He made no effort to work in close and backed off way too much. You don't don't win over the judges like that.
    Kovalev could have went up a gear and took risks. Maybe the body shots stung him too much and he felt he was heading for a 12 rounder and didn't want to blow his tank. Either way he threw the fight away as much as Ward won it , even though Ward was responsible for his timid performance.
     
  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What clean shots did Ward land then....
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I gave Kovalev one more round (12), but we're in the same ballpark.

    My biggest problem with this fight is that, of the 7 rounds that one mightve reasonably found for Ward, round 10 wasn't one of them- yet all judges gave him 10. That was the margin between winning and losing.
     
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  10. LomachenkoIsTBE

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    My view changes a lot between a draw and a win for Ward. I'm going to just leave it now lol.
     
  11. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    yes, you and all 4 of your posts have been very contributory. Congratulations, you insult people on 50% of your posts.
     
  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    As stated in my other post the most important criteria in boxing is effective aggression which indicates ward needs a k.o because Kovalev did effective aggression more than not. Effective aggression is in the rules of boxing and is what judges are supposed to look at most beyond defense or ring generalship as long as the aggressor is landing punches.

    also having conversations where the younger fans seem to think equal rounds shouldnt go to the champion??WTF...lol
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    After the third round, it looked like a Ward fight and not a Kovalev fight. Considering that, I'm not surprised that Ward got the benefit of doubt in a lot of close rounds. The actual punch stats were close and low volume. We'll never know what the judges saw landing and what they missed. But during most of that time it felt like an Andre Ward fight.
     
  14. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The most important criteria in boxing is clean punching.
     
  15. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well punches landed would be clean punching, you cannot have a clean punch land otherwise or they would be called blocked or missed punches. What overrides clean punching is making guys wobble or hurt if not connecting fully which again has to connect cleanly to have the effect /knocking them down or knocking them out,(obviously)

    Clean punching is a term that should be actually significant punches landed it is the same thing..
     
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