Kovalev-Ward: Swing Rounds and Clean Punches

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    This video zeroes in on the clean punches landed in the close "swing rounds" of the fight, which ended up being very close. Hopefully it stimulates some good discussion on scoring these close rounds.

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  2. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nice video! To answer your questions for rounds 3, 10, 12. Originally i gave 3 and 10 to kov and 12 for ward, but after the video I am giving 10 and 12 only to kov. I changed my mind on the 12th because kov noticeably hurt ward and if the judges only reward kov is when he hurts ward, then I should as well.

    Anyway round 10 was the most controversial because all 3 judge had it for ward even thought it was one of his best round behind round 2. What did the judges see to score round 12 for ward?
     
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  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Kovalev did miss a lot in those rounds, and people still gave it to him no problem, even if Ward landed cleaner shots In Most Of The Close rounds.
     
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  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    2 jabs to the body are cleaner than 5 punches from Kovalev that seemed to miss entirely by inches, and still scored in favor of Kovalev IN ROUND 5... SMH
     
  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Ward was the more accurate fighter through 12 rounds and threw 137 punches less, and was only out landed by 10 PUNCHES... Hardly a robbery!! LOL

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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Round 3 starts at 10:15 about 5 head shots from Kovalev clean.
    Round 5 starts at 16:30 and another 5 clean head shots from Kovalev.
    Enough to win both rounds close.

    You can see the clean shots a lot more clearly in this video than the original.
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  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'm not seeing any clean shots...
     
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  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Ward won round 5! Thanks for posting the video again chrissy!!
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Ward landed at best the same amount of shots as Kovalev, quit acting pompous Drenlou, the biased video up top didn't prove ****. If anything the rounds were even.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because you're only seeing what you want to see. Look a little harder.
     
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  11. Cross of Iron

    Cross of Iron Active Member Full Member

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    1. The classic Ward move is to initiate a clinch , ( if they bump heads at this time then all the better ) then Ward will trap Kovalev's left arm and turn him into a wide open left shot to the liver . Ward has this move perfected to a fine art . Kovalev got hit by it over and over and it slowed him down somewhat . For the rematch Kovalev has to throw more body shots and use Ward's own tactic against him . Kov will have to throw more combinations rather than just one shot at a time . Ward is a slick , rough housing boxer , they don't come any dirtier than Ward does at a high level .
     
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  12. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Nah.. I respectfully disagree with you. Ward landed shots up top and to the body. The thing is when you watch fights live in the arena you don't see everything that's being broadcasted on TV. sometimes they're not facing you correctly or the ref is in the way, or one fighters back is facing you ect. I've been to many live fights and thought a fighter did this and did that and when I got home to watch it on TV it looked totally different. From that point of view, at least to me and I'm sure others will agree Ward landed cleaner shots, though not by many but CompuBox supports that. Me and you always judge fights different, there's no secret in that. I think Thurman beat Porter, you think Porter beat Thurman and round and round we go.
     
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  13. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not at all, I had money on Kovalev. I see things exactly for what they are, Ward won a close fight. Kovalev fought well, just not well enough to beat Ward. Ward's jab is his power punch and he landed it regularly changing levels, his timing was too much for Kovalev to overcome.
     
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  14. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I feel like Kovas punches are more effective and have more weight behind them, Ward throws punches with the same impact as a forearm punch and somehow that is better than Kovas set of strikes.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    Close rounds should be called 10-10.
     
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