Why does size matter?

Youre beyond stupid .lol

 

Ive already went over this above .

 

He was still a world class trainer after he got attacked, so I wouldn't use that to question his judgement.
Also, this was referring to a point about Tyson being night and day more skilled than Dempsey, not the main topic at hand.

 

He used good feints to get in and worked head to body combos rather effectively against his opposition ,you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

 

Valuev won decisions he should have lost. See the Donald fight. And he should have lost to a very old Holyfield.

Too slow and not a hard enough hitter he was. Haye wasn't small He's 6'3" tall, with a 78" reach. Same height as Ali and nearly the same reach.

And he can hit, but outside of Valuev, which he won in a close fight, did he beat another top ten man at heavyweight?

 

Youre so stupid that was Buddy Baer who did that and did weigh as much as 250 ,maybe you should go brush up your boxing IQ?

 

No you just want to talk b.s in a thread you created where you are not getting your way. lol

 

Tyson at his best was more technical, but more skilled is debatable.

My point is Arcel never saw the emergence of skilled Super Heavyweights, which has dominated heavyweight boxing since 1990. And if he did he was likely too old to comment. 26 years have passed since 1990, this is not a fad.

Prior to 1990, Dempsey wasn't that small. He'd be 200- 205 today, maybe giving up about 10-15 pounds to Tyson.

 

Right. But isn't that the whole point? Valuev is over 10 weight classes above Haye. TEN!
Following prevailing wisdom, as long as he has basic training, and can throw a 1-2, he should get Haye out of there instantly, right?

Another example is Byrd vs. Vitali.
We can't call Vitali absent of skill can we? If so, who is left, just his brother?
There are just too many examples to call each one an outlier.

I think we have similar opinions on the matter. I'm just questioning the logic you used to articulate your point. I'm simply pointing out that a CW can be a major figure in the HW scene in modern boxing that's filled with big guys.

 

the introduction of so called "Skilled superheavyweights" has more to do with modern body building advances than anything else. It's amazing how good a fighter looks when the tempo suits him.

Artificial weight suits the giants. It slows down the smaller ones and makes the bigger ones more relevent. Fewer champions make the US army weight to height requirements compared to the last time heavyweight boxing was remotely good to watch.

Historically Giants training like boxer's just did not suit their bodies. They obviously needed to be heavier but until the advances in creating functional weight came in they just got slower. It's only the big guys who can carry the artificial weight they all want to carry now.