Why does size matter?

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yes. On some of the ratings it provides the champion plus the top 10 so I average the champion in as well.
     
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    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The exact same thing can be said pre 1950.
     
  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And ? Who is the dominant era champion besides Marciano ? The other Champions were considered big in THEIR era ,we are also going by current trends not using selective examples to disprove a obvious fact.
     
  4. Mr.DagoWop

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    Dempsey wasn't big, Louis was above average maybe but not big, Charles wasn't big, Patterson wasn't big, Ali wasn't big, Frazier wasn't big, Tyson wasn't big, Holmes wasn't big...
     
  5. GALVATRON

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    Dempsey was 6'2 who are you kiddin?

    who won out of Patterson and Liston was that a big size difference considering Liston out weighed him by 20/25 pounds? Ali wasn't big?? He was nearly the size of Foreman in that fight and in the 60's he clearly looks bigger than most.

    The tyson card??Yep when all else fails lets use Tyson. Smh

    And yea that midget Holmes what was I thinking? lol

    Dominant era champions? im sure you are playing stupid now, you have to be.(I hope)
     
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  6. Mr.DagoWop

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    Lmfao Dempsey was exactly 6' 0.75 ". Definitely not 6'2".

    You said the champions were big compared to everyone else in the division and I proved you wrong. I said nothing about Patterson vs Liston. Ali was not big. He was sub 200 for his first 15 fights then he was within 10 lbs of every single one of his opponents being outweighed actually a few times before he got banned. If I have to explain to you why Ali wasn't considered big then that is pretty sad. He may have been tall but he wasn't big.

    Was Tyson not a dominant heavyweight champion?

    Holmes was 215 lbs and under until he was 32 lmao!

    So if they weren't big then they were midgets? Damn you are a very polar person.
     
  7. GALVATRON

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    Well I see no listing of 6'0? If hes 6'1 hes not shorter is he,wouldnt that make him taller to 6'2? Anyway hes still a big guy in HIS era. You aren't going to change facts b/c of one inch off...like you were btw in some of your heights.

    The champs were bigger most of the time you didn't prove anyone wrong on this thread, we both know this. Ali was 210/220 while still relevant most of his career ,you have no idea what you are talking about.

    Again you lost this thread before you started it ,we all know that when ANYONE uses the Tyson card.,Foreman is also a small guy right? He was 210 at times as well and between 220/230 pounds after he fought Ali on average,so LITTLE foreman pre Ali isn't big either right, everyone was 6'3 220/225 ? :icon_popcorn:
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

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    Do you read what you post? " If hes 6'1 hes not shorter is he,wouldnt that make him taller to 6'2". 6'2 is taller than 6'1, do you not know that?

    Dempsey was NOT a big guy in his era. Top contenders were Miske (6'1") may have been taller, Fulton (6'5.5"), Morris (6'4"), Brennan(6'1"), Wills(6'2"), Gibbons(6'1"), and Firpo(6'2.5") just to name a few. All were either Dempsey's height or taller.

    The guys Ali outweighed were small for the division even in THEIR era. Ali was outweighed himself PLENTY of times.

    You got wrecked by Tyson alone because you know I'm right thats why you keep saying "Tyson Card".

    Foreman was BIGGER than Ali. Hence the nickname "Big" George Foreman.

    You showed to everyone how much of an amateur you are congratulations.
     
  9. GALVATRON

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    And 6'0 is not 6'1 so the height is still increasing isn't it.... ?


    You say Holmes is small yet the bigger HW's of the 80's was 6'3 the same reason Dempsey of ( 6'1) is bigger because the average Hw was about 6'0...he actually only fought one guy Firpo who was taller than him by a inch or so as a defending champion,the rest were either shorter or the same height. Foreman was less than 4 pounds heavier than Ali when they fought ,and it looks as though ali is taller than him too when they were standing eye to eye...yea big George and small Ali..lol

    Again you and Reznic are obssessed with the smaller guy syndrome that you proposterate and exaggerate any means to say size doesn't matter at any cost even though it goes against reality.


    Please do your research before you make such a post. at least give credit to other posters who are to smart to even indulge in this wild fantasy you created..lol
     
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  10. Mr.DagoWop

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    You are seriously ****ing ******ed. Dempsey's height never increased, he was 6'1 not 6' and not 6'2 you ****ing troll!

    I NEVER said Holmes was small. I just said he wasn't big. Just because a guy isn't small doesn't mean he is big. The average heavyweight of Dempsey's era was NOT 6'. I already proved this. The guys Dempsey defended against that were smaller had moved up. Carpentier was the light heavy champ and Tunney was coming up from light heavy as well.

    Foreman was taller/bigger than Ali, there was a whole thread about it a while ago. Nobody on here agrees with you when you say Ali was big or even as big as Foreman. gtfoh.
     
  11. GALVATRON

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    I never said his height increased,im referencing to height increses for dominant era champs which continued with Louis and Liston you imbecile. You stated Holmes was a small HW and wasn't BIG along with the other false points you said,how many times are you going to lie and then retract on here with me?

    "Holmes wasn't big..." # comment number 1323 so theres no confusion ,I know
    you like that to cover tracks.

    "I said nothing about Patterson vs Liston." That's because that shows another bigger champion defeating a smaller one.Patterson was not a dominant era champion..LISTON was.



    The truth is this quote I found sums up why you made this thread and shows your unhealthy obsession about size ...

    "Big people are just targets and you're ****ed off at that fact so you take it out on other people on the internet."

    You're basically the little kid who didn't get his toy in the toy store so you just troll until you convince yourself by posting b.s more than half the time,and throw tantrums when dealt with facts you cant intelligently shrug off.

    lol

    Go ahead show me where Dempsey is listed at 6'0 b/c all boxing sources have him at 6'1 ,and show me how many guys he fought were taller while you are at it, also tell me how Ali is small when less than 4 pounds and half an inch seperates him from BIG Foreman when they fought ?Oh I forgot who im dealing with here...forget it. :icon_pc:
     
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  12. Mr.DagoWop

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    If I said Holmes was small then QUOTE ME ON IT. Otherwise stfu with your trolling.

    Liston was the same height as Dempsey so no the height didn't increase there. Liston was a less dominant champ than Patterson was so idk why you are forgetting to mention him, he was 6'.

    I said Holmes wasn't big many times. SHOW ME WHERE I SAID HOLMES WAS SMALL.

    This thread was made before you were even a member here so you are obviously foreman&dempsey's alt. That explains your constant trolling. You post just like him and I had the suspicion you were him a couple of weeks ago. Nice try dumbass.

    Lmfao are we arguing about who is the troll here? Because all you need to do is look at your post history and you will see who is trolling. Still you.
     
  13. GALVATRON

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    I already gave you the post number where you stated all the HW's are not big.if they are not big then what are they???..you are trolling your own thread ,I think everyone knows this by now with the post count..lol


    If I were That guy rest assured I wouldn't have Foreman or Dempsey on my screen name I would have Tyson and Klitchko or something of that sort ,so you can cry all you like.

    P.S I didn't quite catch that Dempsey height you posted ...6'0 right? How about AT THE TIME of a actual fight where someone was a half inch shorter and about 3 pounds lighter , explain the giant of a differance there or does the cat have your tongue now? lol

    "I said nothing about Patterson vs Liston." That's because that shows another bigger champion defeating a smaller one.Patterson was not a dominant era champion..LISTON was.
     
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  14. reznick

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    Holy ****, how is anyone supposed to follow this obscure mumbo jumbo.
     
  15. GALVATRON

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    oh god here we go the tag team dumbo's at it again . :gayfight: