My own interest in boxing ebbs and flows, where I'll go for a time never thinking about it for weeks or months, then I'll get really into it again and watch a ton and bother you all incessantly. Sort of a pattern. Each time I do this, it seems to be with a slightly different agenda or set of interests to be explored. This time around I want to watch more Gilberto Roman, for example. I should know more about him. What fighter or area of boxing history are you trying to brush up on more these days? Any blind spots you'd like to improve on for yourselves?
I like to pick a fighter that interest me, for example Marvin Hagler and research all his opponents. Maybe find out what that fighters career was like up to that point, how did he train, things he could have done differently to win the fight. Its never ending, great when i get bored and sometimes gives me ideas for working out.
I'm gonna be totally honest now. I'm actually sick of boxing today. The politics, the match making, the lack of clarity as to who the champion is, the prima donna bs, the whole a-side debate. I'm sick of it and my excitement in boxing has waned. I'm more and more becoming a fan of UFC. I had a list of 100 fights I wanted to watch before I dedicate more time to UFC history. I'm about 25 fights in. Once that list is complete I won't be studying any past boxers any more. I'm absolutely sick of looking at bet 365 and seeing a card full of mismatches in boxing and a card full of even money matches in UFC. The Ward - Kovalev fight only served to further my disengagement. Two men fighting in what should be a fight between contenders, lauded as a championship fight. Stevenson who is supposedly the champion just facing whoever he wants regardless of ranking or prestige. I'll still watch fight which pique my interest but I'm giving less and less of a **** now.
I don't know how you hung in this long.......I haven't followed boxing in real time in over a decade. It seems like a completely different sport than the fights I catch on youtube. Plenty there to keep one busy, no need to even acknowledge modern boxing, as far as I'm concerned.
The modern sport is so convoluted now. No one knows who the champion is any more. Very few take meaningful fights any more. I just cba with it.
I too am pretty sick of today's boxing scene. I was very disappointed that Kovalev lost...I don't care too much for Ward,...I guess I'm pinning my hopes on GGG...but I couldn't tell you who's he likely next to fight if I had too...the heavyweight scene sucks....I'm disappointed in Tyson Fury and his "meltdown" or whatever you want to call it,.....why couldn't he have waited till his career was over,...at least after a Wlad rematch, before he has his friggin' "melt down"? I don't place too many hopes in Wlad coming back, that is, reclaiming the title,...and if he did, what difference would it make? He wouldn't be winning it back from the guy who took the title from him,..you know, the way it's supposed to be done...the way it used to be done in the past. I don't know too much, or care too much about any of the other "titlists"...the middleweight scene is a pale, adulteration of what it used to be in the far distant past. Canelo, the latest in the "tradition" of "catchweight queens"...is a decent fighter, but he continues to adulterate the sport like his predecessor Miguel Cotto with this catchweight crap. I truly didn't give a damn about the cherry picker supreme, Floyd Mayweather...his entire image, his glitzy, tacky Beeeberized image and all that ****. I don't think I can even name any of the champion or titlists from welterweight on down. Too many "titlists",...too many weight divisions....just like I've been bitching about for years.....but MMA isn't a substitute for boxing...oh, except for female MMA...I do like that...but like I said, it doesn't make up for the better days of boxing....so its "classic" boxing for me...I'll just dwell in the past. I watch You Tube vids of Victor Galindez, Wlfredo Gomez, and mostly the stylists of boxing, like Tommy Loughran, Harold Johnson, Willie Pastrano, Joey Giardello, Nicolino Locche especially....they're who I've been studying these days.
I'm disillusioned by it at the moment. I'm sick of mismatches being presented as competitive fights in the UK and Hearn having the gall to put them onto PPV. Haye v Bellew being the latest example. I'm sick of no more than ordinary fighters who aren't even top 10 holding paper titles and being masqueraded as "world champions", then sitting on the belts fighting nobodies, once again in fights that are hyped as competitive. The Mayweather and Pacquiao fight taking 7 or 8 years to be made, I had virtually no interest in it when it was eventually made and knew it would be a stinker. I'm hanging in there but I fear in 10 or 20 years boxing will be more akin to wrestling.
The reason I'm getting into UFC now, if I talk to an average man on the street about it, they know everything that needs to be known "the champion is McGregor, to be the best you must beat him" In how many divisions in boxing would the average man on the street be able to have a conversation about who the champion is? I'm sick of it. sick of being a hardcore fan anyways. I'll watch classic fights still, I have my list to continue working through. Up to Benitez v Duran atm.
I agree with you guys, it isn't the same game nowadays with the exception of a few fighters. I like watching and reading about the 70's and back; more depth, lots of fighters, good matches, limited amount of champions, 15 round championship distance, etc.
lufc - wow, great comments, man! I'm off too bed, but I'll follow up with my thoughts with regards to your post and this post in the morning.
The organizations are ****. The production is ****. The marketing is ****. It's so fragmented and balkanized. The first question I always get is "Who is the champion." Always. And the person who asks, always asks with a hint of frustration, because they know the answer will be complicated. How is there no clear champion? That is so ****ing wrong.
I'm currently reading Pollacks on Jack Johnson very interesting. Plan to read the newer Sullivan book after these. I've also been watching a lot more of Holyfield, Lennox, and Tyson.