loma being called p4p absurd? bias in boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ThatsRight11, Nov 28, 2016.


  1. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    If it helps you sleep, crack on believing that son ;)
     
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  2. ThatsRight11

    ThatsRight11 Active Member Full Member

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    believing what? r u feeling ok, as it stands salido beat loma, that's a fact and whether or not u think he's improved is pure speculation if that helps you sleep at night keep on believing it, salido has a win over him and until loma avenges it your opinion means nothing, russel fight was only 3 months later, salido could have the style to beat loma
     
  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    If I were a referee then I would clamp down on holding, elbows and head butts. I've also seen lots of boxing fans condemn these moves as cheating.

    It's only these fighters fans or fans of other fighters that employ such tactics that try and defend these rule breaking tactics.

    And Salido is a disgrace. I wouldn't have cared whoever he came in over weight against and low blowed my opinion would still be **** that guy, he's a POS.
     
  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Where Russell went wrong was bothering to make weight and trying to fight within the rules of boxing. He should have not bothered making weight and punched Loma in the balls whenever he looked he he was about to have any success. That would have been another great win according to this guy.
     
  5. ThatsRight11

    ThatsRight11 Active Member Full Member

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    he's fought way bigger fighters as an amateur than salido, would u call ward a cheat then? he should have been prepared the old pros have alot of tricks
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Some crimes are worse than others. That's true in any walk of life.

    Some of Ward's performances have seen him break the rules, yes. I also have no doubt he'd modify his style if refs started doing their job better.

    How could Lona prepare better for someone not making weight and throwing low blows? Have a day off, you sound ridiculous.
     
  7. ThatsRight11

    ThatsRight11 Active Member Full Member

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    i sound ridiculous? then how did 10 other fighters deal with it and salido's tactics? you sir sound absurd! chill out, salido beat loma and even hbo had it scored for salido, he's bigger fighter's like toledo as an amateur, and this is the pros, mayweather has alot of pro tricks to, they're camp should have been prepared and probably had sparring partners low blow him for prep haha, nah just kidding but they should have been more prepared
     
  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    A guy cheating on the scales isn't acceptable. And did Salido cheat on the scales 10 other times? If not then I don't see what point you're trying to make there. Having fought supposedly bigger men in the past doesn't change the fact Salido deliberately cheated.

    Now low blows wise that's on the ref to deal with and he was woefully inadequate. Low blows need to be called early so as to prevent the **** show we ended up seeing happening.
     
  9. ThatsRight11

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    stop making excuses, salido won and mikey garcia fought a salido weighing 143 on fight night had zero problems and he's the same size as loma, also beat salido easy
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    It's not an excuse. It's a statement of fact. We have weight categories for a reason and if you can't see that the referees complete tolerance of low blows had a factor in that fight then I can't help you.

    There's no point in going round in circles with you, if you think flagrant rule breaking is ok then that's up to you.
     
  11. ThatsRight11

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    believe what u want, that's what a seasoned pro does get's away with what he can, and 11 other fighters were able to deal with salido and his tactics
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Salido modified his tactics for Loma. If you can show me how he cheated on the scales and threw scores of low blows against those other guys then be my guest. Otherwise we've reached an impasse.
     
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  13. chitownfightfan

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    Or......it could be that unlike the guys he's using in his argument, he's scoring KO's/RTDs/and winning his decisions being the far superior defensive fighter like Lara, Rigo, Floyd, Ward etc......but also being the more aggressive, explosive fighter in his wins as well making him a far more COMPLETE package than the aforementioned.

    Does any fight fan, pundit, or insider on the planet believe that Salido survives 12 rds vs Lomachenko today??
    Oh, wait......Salido does have a team, a family, and a portion of fans, but SERIOUSLY.....they don't really believe he'll hear the final bell in a rematch, do they? CAN THEY?

    Salido wants a retirement check. PERIOD. He knows his foulfest SD wouldnt survive a rematch. And he damned near got KTFO even while fouling for 24 of the 36 minutes sharing the ring.

    As for Garcia....ya know....Im personally a fan of Mikey's. Have been for a pretty long time. So for me, this is a fight Im not real pressed to see. But Gamboa.....I say.....Lomachenko would make Gamboa into a stepping stone. Turn him into a journeyman overnight.

    I don't personally rate Loma as the p4p #1.
    But I can't bring myself to include Lara in my top 10.
    Ward is realistically #5-#7 and Kovalev should realistically be top 3.
    But as the result stands, the 5 billion who believe Kovalev clearly won the fight, or just NICKED it, are outweighed the 3 well compensate judges, and the couple hundred Wardo's lurking around the net, and the other 10 or so apologists who somehow, even though in their minds know the real result was no less that 115-112 Kovalev, they still steer their way into the 114-113 group if for no other reason than to make the id10ts think theyre not so bad.
     
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  14. Dreamking

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    "wut i sez is fact I nvr herd of proof" Literally what you sound like right now.
    Never refuted to what Salido has done to warrant a rematch, never refuted to what Max saying that Loma doesn't need Salido at this point in his career, never post evidence, refuses to say anything but "i say iz fact 100% more than yous" autistic ****ing ******s such as yourself should prob get off the internet.
     
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  15. ThatsRight11

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    you are delusional and insane, you really think loma doesn't need to rematch salido? you've been proved wrong you can't accept what i said? tell me where loma was on compubox before this fight? because it wasn't top 5