Ali's Anchor Punch - Question.

It wasn't the count ..Liston got up..the ref stopped the fight while Liston was still fighting AFTER he beat the count, certainly not knocked out. Go through the recent posts of mine about the punch landed.

 

The rationale for ruling that Liston was knocked out was that he down for longer than 10 seconds as measured by time keep who maintained the counted while Walcott was dealing with Ali's failure to remain in the neutral corner,

 

Well that's a bit strange considering Ali threw a few unanswered punches when liston got back up before the referee stopped it. but yea ,my point is here the punch did land,liston wouldn't have been trying to fight back once back on his feet,wheather a fix fight is at hand is another matter.

 

I'd smoke you in your boots. You can see for yourself if you want to venture so far. I'll cover you travel expense if you prove me wrong.

But who am I kidding. You're too ***** too even post footage of yourself boxing after demanding that others do the same.

Who cares who you know? None of them could hold the spit bucket for who "my family is connected to" in boxing. And none of that matters you bozo.

 

Yeah Jack Johnson used it all the time ,you can see it in his fights with----------.lol
I never disputed the punch landed the point of contention is did it do enough damage to stop Liston?

Red Smith said that's what Ali said .I haven't said Ali made the quote public.
the iconic photo of Ali standing over Liston is when he shouted the remark.
You're reading comprehension isn't too special is it?lol
This video includes the post fight conference and Ali can be heard saying
when Liston hit the floor the crowd began shouting fix fix,that's when he says" I said get up."

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This video shows Ali shouting and gesticulating at Liston immediately after he has floored him.at18.51at 22.10 Ali is asked which punch dropped Liston, he replies," it was a left hook or a right cross",no mention of a karate punch reversed or other wise , and no mention of an anchor punch,he didn't even know which punch had dropped Liston!

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Gaviscon you're full of it!

 

Liston got caught with a shot and for unknown reasons looked for a way out, this is a fact.....

 

You impied the punch never landed by referancing the quote you posted and suggesting the anchor punch /snapping straight right (whatever you WISH to call it is fictional even though ONCE AGAIN its on vid),now are reversing what you said,but as now i see you do this always . I didnt know just how delusional you were until now. lol

There are literally numerous artlcles and interviews of Ali concerning the punch , i myself was at his induction that was given to him by Cynthia Rothrock for Martial arts hall of fame and train with others that have stories you wont find any where else , s not only are you fighting against reality (as usual , you are now even saying the fight ended with a right cross ) you are arguing with a MUCH more knowledgeable person than yourself ,,so good luck with that . And how come you are the only one that hears Ali yelling the words you say he did ,out of curiosity ,the truth is you add libbed the quote and made your OWN version ? lol

In the first video you posted , Marciano said Ali hit him with enough force with 6 inches from another look not sure what you are even trying to prove other than your continued babbling B.S along with the second video which ali says " He was TRYING to tell the bum to get up"..he never said them out loud .

"Get up you bum ,no one will believe this!" Ali to Liston. What you posted making it out as the punch never landed or didn't land cleanly,even though he never said that.

 

Kid the only distance I travel is out my drive way where if one wishes to walk up it and do the business, well than its do able ( which actually happened 2 years ago ,i layed 2 kids with big mouths out challenging me ..each lasted about 20 seconds,one was carried away.I have a pretty decent list on that driveway.lol) so there you have it. And honestly don't waste time with undersized / under average talent to go traveling and waste my times,so I would probably just have my son beat the living day lights out of you if it actually came to anything because even if I was 15 I would literally batter you still.

 

0 results about any of this crap on google.
Are you telling me Ali learned that punch from martial arts in the 60's? How dumb are you?

Stick to your driveway fights. There's some real talent once you leave there. Although you probably know that already since it sounds like you've failed miserably at boxing.

 

And stop bragging about your loose connections to famous boxers like a pathetic loser, when people here you talk **** to actually knew them person.

**** boi.
Back up the driveway you go.

 

Whatever kid, just let me know when you post another video , so I can invite friends over for comedy night.

JoeDrogan420
Striking Essentials
2/20/13
Unlocking the Secrets of the “Anchor Punch”
You probably have heard about a secret punch, mystical in nature and esoteric in its technique. It likely brings up memories of Muhammad Ali’s famous KO of Sonny Liston. (

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) Here’s Ali eloquently explaining the punch, pointing out how quick the punch is and how hard it is to see coming. What’s so mysterious, and surprising, about this punch is that even after watching it, and even after hearing Ali describe it, it still has eluded mainstream striking. No one seems to quite to be able to figure it out; the technique seems to be just too advanced. But with a little training, and a keen eye, this technique can easily be understood and implemented into one’s striking arsenal. Hell, even Nick Diaz has thrown a variation of the “Anchor Punch” (@2:00 of

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). Even more surprising is that Juan Manuel Marquez recent devastating KO of Manny Pacquaio came from the “Anchor Punch” as well. Here’s Marquez practicing the punch in sparring prior to the 4th bout: (

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).
So, what’s so special about the anchor punch? Well, as mentioned above, the first two obvious things about this punch are the speed at which it comes, and how hard it is to see coming. The next thing to realize is how devastating the power of the punch itself is. The best way for people to understand this, is to practice the punch themselves. To those wondering the proper technique for throwing this punch, well it’s called the “Anchor punch” for a reason. Eeveryone know the shape of an anchor. You know like the one tattooed on Pop-eye’s forearm? That “C” motion is what I’m talking about. When this punch is thrown it has the same mechanics of a right straight, but the arm is thrown in a C motion as if you were shooting an anchor directly at someone’s chin and your arm was to follow the outermost curve of the anchor. So the arm, shoulder, and hips are torqued back prior to the right straight, then begin to come up into the upper arc of the C, then drop down and curve throughout the rest of the anchor motion. The punch turns the hips over and really turns the shoulders over as well, giving the punch the devastating KO power we see.
The reason it is so quick is because it’s almost reflexive in how it uses your muscles. Once you get the motion down, the torque generated just drives more force and speed into the shot. Also the angle the punch comes from is incredibly hard to see. The punch gets there right as the opponent notices that it’s coming, giving even the most adept in head movement no time to get out of the way. This punch is a counterpunch and the angle of the punch coming down just seems to land right on the button every time.

So what’s so mysterious and why do we see it demonstrated in such diverse variations a la Nick Diaz vs. Ali vs. Marquez vs. Anderson, etc.? Well, that all comes down to fighting style, physical attributes, and technique. Nick Diaz, who I’m not even sure knew he was throwing an anchor punch, set up the shot by going into a shell with his lead left arm shielding his face and his right arm below shielding his body. From this shell Diaz throws a jab, stepping in at the same time. He then throws the right hand in an arching motion in between that of a hook and straight, put the punch still curves downward in the anchor motion.

Next up, we can look at Ali, a master of head movement and footwork. Ali, who loved to float like a butterfly with his footwork and sting like a bee with his counterpunching, simply stepped back out of range of Liston’s jab then threw the counter anchor punch right over top. What makes Ali’s KO so memorable is his unbridled self-confidence in his striking, head movement, and footwork. He allows Liston to get inside to setup the punch, but is so confident in his head movement to setup the counter he allows Liston to take a further step in and throw the jab. Ali instantly recoils, torqueing his right hand, then delivers the infamous shot.
Marquez, a tight, technical boxer, landed his anchor punch by baiting an aggressive Pacquaio in, who tried to pursue with his jab. Marquez, craftily prepared, slipped to the outside of the jab and threw the anchor counterpunch over top. This is probably my favorite variation just due to the sheer tightness of technique and the devastating effects of the punch, not just the knockout but what it meant to the boxing world as well.

So, finding which variation matches your fighting style is what is most important in learning to throw this punch most effectively. Offensive fighters like Diaz will wade their way in with a shell. Add power to the shot by stepping in with a jab, then deliver the rear hand counter overtop to the unsuspecting opponent. Defensive minded fighters like Ali and Floyd Mayweather Jr. to setup the strike, in a very similar setup to Floyd’s lead right actually, would back away, deflect, or parry, a strike with their lead hand/arm, or slip a punch and then counter with the rear hand. Not only is this strike effective defensively and offensively, learning its technique will help you understand other important principles of boxing. The most pressing being that you setup your punches with your footwork, and that technique is ingrained in muscle memory. The best of the best practice the best techniques day in and day out, then on fight day all they have to do is get in the ring and let their reflexes take over.

This punch is certainly a favorite of mine, and should be implemented into your arsenal. I know I’d love to see some more anchor punches thrown in MMA, and not just from MMA’s two best boxers in: Nick Diaz and Anderson Silva.

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2/20/13 5:53 PM

"After the fight, Ali claimed the blow was Jack Johnson’s secret anchor punch that actor Stepin Fetchit had taught him. “It’s a chop, so fast you can’t see it,” he said. “It’s karate. It’s got a twist to it. Just one does the job.” No mention of Karate aye?

And the real funny thing is I know FIRST hand about Ali and this punch by my Karate lineage has that not even writers have,knowlede you never will have...lol Unfortunalty the Ali vid is blocked ,but no matter you still play the fool.

 

Make ESB Burt Beinstock again...

 

YOU GOT OWNED!

 

Wow, this is gotten convoluted! I can't even tell who's arguing what. Is it actually being suggested that all we didn't scream over Liston? All you really wasn't the mime type!

Here's the bottom line is we can all go back trying to figure out the question of the ages "WHY DOES SIZE MATTER" ALI landed a quick punch to Sonny LISTON's temple snap his head back and disoriented him. The punch was short and fast and hit the right spot. The count after the knock down was completely screwed up. Liston says that he never heard the count and was attempting to pick it up. Liston said that he could have gotten up which appears to be the case since he was fighting after being on the canvas for 12 seconds.

Part of Liston did not give a shiiiit! He was a guy with a drinking problem who was getting screwed over by his mafiaoso management and was at least little bit nervous about Muslims. In no small part he probably just wanted to get the hell out of there at this point.

 

Size isn't the topic of the thread its about the legitimacy of the ANCHOR punch which if you go to my previous post number 86 will explain it.