The thing about super heavyweight with skills.

There hasn't been a lot of Elite level SH's.. Bowe , Lewis and Fury .. Everybody else was a few levels below.

 

don't forget the Klits.

 

I said elite level

 

yeah that's why I included the Klits silly.

 

They were a level below I just told you.

 

no you didn't, go reread our posts again.

when are you going to stop making stuff up Dino?

 

How in the hell can a guy who was the #1 best in a division for a decade NOT be elite level?

 

He might have an elite level record , but he wasn't an elite level fighter.. Many guys who wren't elite dominated for a decade-
Calzaghe, Ottke , DM , Zolt etc..

You're not meant to lose when your era is land of the bums. Wlad lost and went life and death all throughout his tenure.

 

When Ali fought Patterson twice ,even the second time he had around 30 pounds on Patterson , believe that was the biggest weight gap for a HW fight in that era . One would have to consider Ali a SHW compared to Patterson in terms of the size differance which is important show casing the thread topic . Liston also outweighed Patterson ,the differance was Liston was a power puncher and was still in his prime when when he fought Patterson ,so Patterson was greatly over matched and was blasted out .

 

Not all those guys established lineage in their classes though. Wlad not only was linear he also had the added bonus of being a top 3 heavyweight for several years BEFORE that 10 year streak.. Wlad is the real deal. A true ATG.

 

Wlad has 8 defences as Lineal Champion. Same as Mike Tyson.
DM was a a lineal champ for longer than both racked up 14 lineal defences. Why isn't he a true ATG?

 

But but but the records.. Yeah , you love Wlads record because thats all he's got going for him. As if there is no difference between Wlad and Louis apart from their long unbeaten streak

Louis was a near a perfect depiction of the art of boxing. I see no artistry when Andre THe giant aka Wlad is resting his body over a host of soup cans for 2mins of every round.
You don't show people Clinchko fights if you want to get them into boxing. . You show them Holmes and Tyson etc. The real Elites of the sport. One would think Wlad belonged to another sport if they didn't know any better.
Records are inflated in this modern day an age. They hardly mean anything anymore.
Where was Furys record when he shut Dr Limphammer out for 95% of the fight. ?
He bested him cos he was Elite. And you would have seen the traces of ATG elite level talent if you had paid close attention to him coming up. You just assumed Wlad was unbeatable because he was so tall and had such bulging muscles and his punch was a lighting bolt sent from the heavens

 

Did Tyson struggle against Bruno ? How ? He destroyed him 2times and won every round.(I think you don't know these fights.)
Lewis was in trouble against Bruno.
Tucker wasn't close thing he was "only" 221 pounds like Tyson.I think we talk about at least 230 lbs SHWs.
Tucker and Bruno had skill they proved against Lennox Lewis. Lewis beat v. klitschko easier than
these fighters considering Lewis was old and out of shape on the klitschko fight.
Otherewise the klitschkos had problem with the super heavyweights.
The inexperienced Fury beat the prime w. klitschko easily.
Old fat Lennox destroyed the prime v. klitschko.