Marciano's Body Frame could easily be Tua and Tyson

i agree.

rocky is no SHW though.

 

What even is a SHW? 240 pounds plus?

 

yikes....Sam was one bad dude.
Ty for the excerpt!

 

I think Marciano can be as big as Tyson and Tua because Orlin was. And that was good enough for ten years ago but perhaps a separate weight class to SHW which is what we have now.

 

I have seen Tua and Tyson live. They are both very big guys for their height, big, thick-jointed, deep-chested guys. Both were structurally like two guys standing in a single suit. I am too young to have met Marciano but have seen many, many pictures. He does not look to have near the same skeletal structure. He was a narrow shouldered, big-waisted, long torso guy with a giant bobblehead.

Furthermore, I don't think Marciano's style would benefit from so much additional weight. He was a slippery fighter who was constantly bending and leaning, a guy who required a lot of flexibility and whose style already overstressed his back at 185. And of course, he was a guy who outlasted his opponents. I don't think that telltale stamina would be there above 205....

 

And by the way, using Norris as a benchmark isn't very helpful. He wasn't a very effective heavyweight.

 

So what do you make of Orlin Norris and his ability to successfully hop between Tua size to Rocky size and back up to Tua size and down again to Rocky and back without losing his flexibility, speed or pace? Orlin was just as good at both divisions too.

Seems that it would not be impossible for anyone else that is roughly marciano size.

 

Anyone can weigh anything they want.

It's about reducing the size difference without compromising too much of the skill difference.

I think he coup comfortably do 215, from there over a 5 year stretch, who's to say how big he could effectively get to.

 

Again, Orlin Norris was not that good a heavyweight. He beat an ancient Tony Tucker (who had previously beaten him) and a young, very hotandcold McCall... and he was beaten by every other half decent heavy he faced. To try to pretend his ability to move between being a good cruiser and an also-ran heavy means that Rocky could have moved from a great cruiser to a great heavy is desperate.

 

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A lot of boxing fantasy picking is desperate because it is all based on conjecture.

Robinson was a great WW and a great MW, doesn't mean others can replicate it but it does mean it's possible.

Maybe Rocky would get banged out, maybe he'd do the banging out.

But if he is scheduled to fight, say Anthony Joshua, would you seriously prefer him to weigh 190 as opposed to 220?

 

Totally agree.

Boxers have shown they can move through the weight and retain a lot of skill, others have shown the opposite.

Hearns went from being knocked out by the best WW in the world to outboxing the best LHW in world. That's scaling 30 pounds which is about a 20% size increase.

But Gomez couldn't effectively move from 122 to 126 which is about 3% size increase.

But still, in your heart of hearts, if he's scheduled to face Joshua next year, would you truly expect him to weigh 190? I sure wouldn't.