You claimed Stanley gave Johnson a black eye, and cited a article stating as much. Yet we've seen photos and stills of Johnson during the fight and post fight, and there is no black eye. Yet you want to post another source as valid, when we've already seen they aren't always valid? Then, you want to trumpet a quote from Stanley which is blatantly false, and blatantly more false than the quote of Sam that you disregarded as BS. Stanley literally said he's in better condition than Johnson LOL. This is what you quoted him saying and trying to pass along as proof? You came into the thread lambasting Sam for saying lies, yet you post lies to support your argument... odd
Jesus. Someone trying to pretend Ketchel was in better shape than Johnson after the fight? Lol. Just before he died Ketchel gave an interview stating he suffered from headaches for months after that ko loss and still hadnt recovered fully.
If your entire point is something I claimed that may or may not be proved on film, this a narrow conversation. I'll settle for a cut and a lump produced by Ketchel who on the surviving films looks awful and hardly landed much at all. Fair facts. If there is a still photo close up after the fight, PM it to me. No, I'm not using Kethcel's words as proof, but it certainly fits the theme of BS from Langford. See my point? Such a blatantly false quote from Langford in a history forum should be noted here, not appreciated.
Do you agree that Langford in that quote is wrong quite a few times or not? Would it cost you something to admit the truth? Here's your chance...
Like, cause them not to admit the truth, and to put forth intellectually dishonest quotations to buttress their idol? I think I know someone like that here. PS: Nice Avatar! I'm glad you cut off your hand of the photo, but the other guy's smile tells me something.
I wont respond to low sh*t like this,I'll just say that former boxer and trainer Jimmy Glenn,[the other guy in the photo ,]would take you apart if you made that tasteless crack to his face ,and he is in his 80's now.
LOL. As they say a picture is worth 1000 words. No reply for you is needed, you won't even admit the truth when cornered on Langford BS quote among other things! Now if you change the avatar soon, I think I'll now why. Keep being delusional in your dotage.
Only three mistakes ,getting better! How about you put a photo up of yourself KlanMan? My avatar stays.
He also said Jeffries was the Greatest. And didn't Langford or was it his manager say he had Johnson down at 156 pounds in their lone boxing match? It seems like Langford said a lot of things, and some of them were wrong.