Sergey Kovalev v Andre Ward. RIGGED SCORECARDS AND COMPUBOX STATS [WITH PROOF].

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  1. MachomanVoice

    MachomanVoice New Member Full Member

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    1) Even if we give TWO 10-10 rounds to Ward (RD 6 and RD 9) it's still 7-5 KOVALEV.
    2) People don't attack judges for giving even rounds to Ward. They attack judges for giving Kovalev's rounds to Ward. RD 10 is the BEST EXAMPLE of that.

    ROUND 10, KOVALEV OUTLANDED WARD 23 - 8 (!!!) and ALL THREE JUDGES SCORED THE ROUND FOR WARD!

    3) Please, let's not make it a retaliation for all the dirt some not very bright people said about Ward. Be smarter than that category of people.
    4) The result of the fight IS a Highway Robbery. Ward fans admit it, Kovalev fans admit it, even the NEUTRAL GENERAL PUBLIC admits it.
     
  2. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    changing our minds not really, showing their butt hurts is more likely....:argue:
     
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  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think there in lies the problem,i think in reality a lot of those rounds were even but for some reason judges don't seem to like scoring even rounds,I guess it's human nature depending on who you like to want to score a close round to one or the other but so many of those rounds just looked so even to me.
     
  4. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Ah fukkit. Punchstats are a sorry way of scoring a fight, but if we're going down the numbers route I'll throw this into the discussion too. These guys are pretty obsessive and use slo-mo post fight to tot up the punches. Bit sad if you ask me, but who am I to judge?

    https://boxstat.co/bout/2898784/sergey-kovalev-vs-andre-ward
     
  5. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Was close as hell in a lot of those rounds, I could make a case for 3 or more 10 -10 rounds, though I only actually scored 1 that way (mainly cos of the unwritten edict that it's somehow wrong). I think the judges would have been fully justified in this this circumstance.
     
  6. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    So let's get this straight. Some dude counts punches and then says the people paid to count punches were in the main wrong? And we're meant to believe his stats over CompuBox stats for which reason exactly? He has a Kovalev agenda, that's okay, scoring is subjective and boxing tribal (he's not going to be a Ward fan that's for sure), but claims the official stats had a Ward agenda, with no evidence to support this other than the fact they counted punches differently to him. As an expression of opinion this is fine - he's entitled to view the fight as he so wishes - but as empirical evidence goes, this literally isn't worth the paper it's written on.

    And newsflash: he does know CompuBox didn't decided the result, right? So even if his points are valid with regards to these stats, they are IRRELEVANT to the actual result.

    And to show what makes me doubt this person's voracity and expertise I include a screenshot of something which makes me think he doesn't really understand boxing very well. I mean what's the significance of this?

    https://vgy.me/Ndz6y3.png
     
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  7. MachomanVoice

    MachomanVoice New Member Full Member

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    1) You can believe in whatever you want. No reason needed. The fact IS Compubox guys are lying to boxing fans about the punch stats for one reason or another, whether you admit it or not, Compubox lies.
    2) I am actually a Ward fan and wanted him to win, but not like THIS, this win is a con job. That's what 99% of boxing fans are saying.
    3) Regarding the last part of your criticism. There is no secret meaning in those words. Ward, mainly, was a body puncher in this fight, a body-jabber, whereas Kovalev was a headhunter throughout the whole fight and still landed more punches than Ward did, although head is a more difficult target than body. To paraphrase the aforesaid - It's just for informational purpose, so people know.
     
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  8. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fact that not a single judge awarded Kovalev the 10th, and 2 of 3 denied him the 5th in which he nearly ripped Wards ear off with a double L hook upstairs is all the evidence I needed to know that JayZ gave em each a pin # to an off-shore account.
     
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  9. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    One of the 3 criteria is effective aggressiveness, which Kovalev swept in all 12 rds. Not for a moment was Adre Ward ever the effective agressor.
    Hugging isnt defense, and Kovalev slipped as many of Wards shots as Ward did Kovalevs, so defense was close....effective counterpunching, Im of the opinion that Kovalev was the better counterpuncher coming over Wards jab to land his hookjab, and beat Dre to the punch in many if not most of the counters, making him the overall more effective ring generalship winner.

    No way to give this fight to Ward without stealing the 10th, 5th and 12th from Kovalev. All 3 in 2 of the 3 judges cards.
     
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  10. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Interesting website. Context is needed for some of these though. It says Ward's average weight is 166 (What?) but when a fighter has moved up in weight after coming from a long layoff I think you should take that into consideration when making that stat.

    When they went on to say Kov hasn't been in there with someone that hits as hard as Ward that was pretty laughable. That whole power segment was...strange. I would love to know what algorithm they are using to quantify these things. Seems pretty questionable if those are the results.

    I suppose the colors don't mean anything on their own, but it is funny that, given the way it is written, it looks like they are saying Kov having a draw is somehow a benefit over Ward because Ward has never had a draw lmao.

    Those colors in that graph when discussing the punches landed throughout the round confused me and me feel dumb haha.

    Very interesting website. I...can not picture myself dedicating the time and effort into doing anything like that. Holy ****.
     
  11. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Ward can afford everything that Mayeather supposedly had, then everybody can have their own ref, boxing commission, judges...ect There's no real reason for anyone to rig this fight.. If the Panthers and the Browns played tonight, who would waste their time rigging that? It was a 5mill purse right?
     
  12. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So your suggesting that Mr. Carter collectively paid more money than he'll get back for having Ward, the guy who fights on BET as you guys like to point out, win this fight? I think he's a great business man who didn't get involved in boxing to lose money trying to make a 'boring' fighter win...
     
  13. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    few weeks later and people are still upset huh? not suprised
     
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  14. MUFA$A

    MUFA$A FEAR * THE * TANK Full Member

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    I respect my brothers right there for keeping it real .

    Ive seen these videos already and believe it or not , theres even more videos all over the net with people admitting Ward lost to Kovalev .

    Unfortunately , the damage is done already . Boxing lost even more fans due to the result of this fight .
     
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  15. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Ward won, it was a close fight, move on, get over the butthurt.

    You look pathetic.
     
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