I think Mayweather would have beaten Loma at 130

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  1. Mortal

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    Solid post.
     
  2. VG_Addict

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    Floyd is just as skilled as Lomachenko, would have a significant reach advantage, and is faster. Floyd was lightning fast at 130.
     
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    I don't really have any doubts that Floyd would've beat him. He's the naturally larger man and in that weight class he packed a punch with both hands.

    Also, I'm not too certain that Vasyl is faster than FLoyd at 130 lbs, both of hands and feet. It would still be an excellent fight but I'd imagine Jr. wins by decision.

    Floyd has a very strong case as the greatest SFW in the history of the sport. He had 27 pro fights at that division and outside of not facing Robert Garcia, he wiped the division clean in his 5+ years at the weight.

    By the time he took on Chico, he had a lot of ring experience accrued. That version of Mayweather (early 2001) would have to be a clear favorite in a match with a smaller Lomachenko.
     
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    Floyd was a world champion at 20, and after only 18 fights. That's very impressive.
     
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    To that end, there's a quote from Eddie Futch that said words to the effect that FMJ was using techniques in the ring that he hadn't seen in decades. Certainly, he and Toney were more inclined to keep their heads off the center line than many of their contemporaries.
     
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    All the respect in the world to Lomachenko...but for me it's Mayweather. With what he has proven in his career...it's not even debatable. 130? Mayweather is probably the best of all time. imo.
     
  7. Mortal

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    Joe Gans was doing things in the 18th century some of this era's elite boxers could only ever dream of pulling off.
     
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    Floyd is a multidimensional fighter. He adapted styles from many fighters.
     
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    Yeah, Gans definitely had elite command of range and punch placement. Good selection of punches, too. I don't think he would have fared badly in the modern era once he had a chance to acclimatize to setting and style of combat in this iteration of the sport.
     
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    Loma would be easy work for Floyd, easier than do IV on the sofa. The only thing Floyd would lose if they were compare wiener.
     
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    I can't say Loma has better footwork. I would say it's flashier. That's about it. Also we have to bring other factors into this discussion I haven't read yet at least in the the first page. Accuracy goes to Floyd. I understand Loma likes to set up big shots with his peppering flurries but in those sequences I think Floyd would land some huge counter shots which brings me to my next point. Timing. Even back then Floyds timing was ridiculous. He can adjust his shots mid thrown and anticipated where guys where going to be at.

    Next point is adjustments. I think Floyd adjusts faster than Loma does who I think is too patient. Floyds ability to adjust is compounded if he gets hurt. He's seems to raise to another level and shuts guys down after he's hurt.

    Another factor is Floyd vs southpaws. There's a misconception that he has trouble against them since he got caught by guys like Zab and Chop Chop. Although this has merit, people aren't seeing the other side of the coin. He's very aggressive and lands his power shots at a higher hit percentage against SP's. He's brings constant pressure and Floyd knows how to cut off the ring. Other than the Manny fight just go back and watch his fights against SP. He's a force that never stops till he wears them down. Loma would be the "runner" in this fight which would work against himself with the judges.

    I think Floyd is just too big, stronger, and faster than Loma. I would give Loma four rounds tops against Floyd.
     
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  12. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Great post man. Arcel, D'Amato, Dundee, Steward, Beristein, Mayweathers, etc they all learned from watching great fighters from the past. Boxing's future heavily relies on its past.
     
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    Wouldn't say Floyd is more skilled. Especially as it comes to offense. Lomas the more skilled fighter.
     
  14. tinman

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    Actually no Floyd is not really multi dimensional. He could rarely play the role of puncher. That's why he struggled so much against Maidana. He could rarely be a pressure fighter. He did what he did very well. Which was pure textbook boxing.
     
  15. 175 Champ

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    The people saying Lomachenko would beat Mayweather are really quite laughable.