Rocky Marciano v Sam Peter

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes but you sometimes get a fighter who is a devastating puncher when he hits guys much bigger than himself, and the most outstanding examples seem to occur around Marciano's weight.

    Any heavyweight who gets hit too often by Sam Langford, or Jack Dempsey, or Bob Satterfield, is going to be in serious trouble.
     
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  2. VG_Addict

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    Just gonna say again: Marciano was dropped by Walcott and Moore. What's gonna happen when Peter hits him?
     
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  3. janitor

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    The way I see it is this:

    I can't think of any McCline sized fighter, who is not at least an above average heavyweight puncher, when he sits down on his shots.

    I am equally certain however, that the worst of them do not hit as hard as the Herbie Hydes of the division.
     
  4. janitor

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    Probably nothing!

    An pounce of delivery, is worth a pound of power.
     
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  5. VG_Addict

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    If Peter landed, Marciano would be knocked out. He hits MUCH harder than Walcott or Moore.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Please consider percentages.
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    A. Not necessarily true.

    B. Possibly irrelevant.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    What about when Trinidad fought Joppy?

    What about when Basilio fought Aragon?

    What about when Johnson fought Bolano?

    What about when Jackson fought Graham?

    What about when Gomez fought Gonzalez?

    What about when Foster fought Besmanoff?

    What about when Peter fought McDowell?

    What about when Marciano fought Louis?
     
  9. Seamus

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    If Marciano closes the distance relatively unscathed (a likelihood), he wins. Peter is dangerous if you hang out, slack-jawed, at the right distance.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    Let's consider who's the best fighter Peter landed on enough to knock out?
     
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  11. VG_Addict

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    Um, yes it is.

    Peter is bigger, and while his power wasn't proven against top competition, he still knocked out bigger guys than Marciano did. You think Marciano would have an 88% KO ratio against today's HWs?
     
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  12. lufcrazy

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    Agree with all of this. Which is why slow footed fat Toney was out matched at range but had his way whenever he wanted up close.
     
  13. VG_Addict

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    This is what I've been saying. Of course Marciano is going to get hurt if he gets hit by someone who outweighs him by 60 lbs. It's like these people don't understand basic physics.
     
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  14. GALVATRON

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    "After the LaStarza fight Marciano's handlers were afraid to put him in with anyone who could fight. His next opponent was Eldridge Eatman who had lost 8 of his last 9 fights. Tiger Ted Lowry who had a career record of 60-54-9, went the distance with Marciano. Others such as Harold (Kid) Mitchell, Art Henri, and Willis Red Applegate all had losing records. It is little wonder that Rex Layne was a 9-5 favorite over Marciano when Rocky finally stepped up in competition. It should be noted that Layne was no world beater, like most of Marciano's top opponents Layne weighed well under 200 pounds and he finished with a career record of 50-17-3." Monte Coxx Boxing historian
     
  15. VG_Addict

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    I would bet money that Peter would beat all of those guys easier than Marciano did.
     
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