TRT - testosterone replacement therapy in sports

I'd ask you to provide a link to a scientific study that supports meldonium as being comparable to aspirin, but (a) there is no such study, it's just something that Russian drug cheat defenders came up with on internet message boards, and (b) you also failed to support your completely wrong assertions that WADA had issued a statement that athletes could take a certain amount of the banned substance meldonium after Jan. 1, 2016 -- which never happened, which is why you couldn't produce it.

Meldonium is a heart medicine used to treat coronary artery disease and, possibly, seizures. Thousands of Russian athletes apparently need pacemakers because they pop that stuff like chiclets.

Any athlete with these conditions should be banned for their safety and probably hospitalized immediately. Aspirin is most often used to treat mild headaches. Not comparable in any way.

 

It meets WADA's standard for being on the prohibited list. They cite studies, including one by the Partnership for Clean Competition, in adding it to the banned list. So there's a study for you. Entire EE teams apparently have the exact same heart ailments yet are world-class athletes. Doesn't that strike you as strange?

 

I think the fact it was widely used by athletes suggests very strongly it has performance enhancing qualities. It's advertised as giving a mental focus, removing external stress so you feel sharper. There is a slight central nervous system effect, like with stimulants such as caffeine, which gives you a sharper edge. It will aid recovery quicker from a hard effort. There is also an endurance effect.

To me Meldonium seems to be a pretty low-level PED akin to many of the legal supplements available in the West. So it's a mute point whether it should be illegal really, and now it is, we should also ask whether other similar but legal products should also be banned. But on the specific point, does it enhance performance? Seemingly so, otherwise why take it?

 

My 'logic' led me to very specifically type: 'To me Meldonium seems to be a pretty low-level PED akin to many of the legal supplements available in the West. So it's a mute point whether it should be illegal really'

Could you point out to me how my logic is that different from yours, kiddo?

Also to say a product - legal or otherwise - taken by athletes has no performance benefit, is illogical. Like I say, why take it if it offers no form of enhancement?

 

Classic side-step.

I have one account, this one...

 

You ask for evidence from me in relation to the topic in hand and yet leap to conclusions about my identity without any evidence to do so. You see the basic flaw in that I presume?

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing that if Meldonium is banned so should a bunch of other supplements which remain acceptable to WADA, and I have already made it very clear I see it as a low-level PED but - and I'll try and make the question simple for you - pushing to one side whether a product is legal or not (or whether it should be or not) tell me why an athlete would take it, unless it had performance enhancing qualities?

 

So two people share the same view and that's proof they're the same person? Is that your definition of evidence? But if you want to believe I have another account, fine, do so. It's impossible to establish a methodological paradigm to disprove a negative anyway, so it would be a thankless task for me to try and dissuade you of your misconception.

The odd thing about all this is I'm actually agreeing with 90% of what you're saying, but disputing the argument that athletes are taking Meldonium but are not trying to gain a performance benefit. We wouldn't even be disputing this, if it were legal (which it probably should be).

A small percentage of athletes may well, by coincidence, have medical conditions which would make the use of this drug legitimate outside the context of being professional sportsmen and women, but this fact alone cannot account for the prevalence of its use.

I know Sharapova took it for more than a decade but medical advice regarding Meldonium and it's medical benefit, when balanced against potential health risks, suggests patients only take short term courses over a matter of a few months. So she clearly had other reasons to continue.

Nothing you have said has persuaded me to change my opinion that the main reason why athletes take this is for athletic enhancement.

 

You're quite confused. I've never admitted that there is no proof -- in fact, I cited a study. WADA says "several studies" and I cited one of them.

Case closed. Your boy is a cheat.

 

What should be done with big headed fighters who use Meldonium and Ostarine because im not ready to leave this **** alone. Lol. The damage control is serious in this maggot.

 

So why do athletes take meldonium if it doesn't enhance anything? They have medical problems? If you want TRT banned then surely you want meldonium banned, right?

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