Was Jack Dempsey The Dirtiest Heavyweight Champion?

Dusted the prof is down for the count lol. Please dont run away, I still have comment on your "brilliant observation on the Brennan II fight. Gave Tunney the blueprint haha, too funny. Tunney was Tunney he knew what to do, he didnt need the John Ruiz of his time to show him the way. It's simple boxing 101, stick n move vs an aggressive puncher, basic, which you obviously dont know too much about. Spinning, spinning.

 

OK, I just noticed the video was made/uploaded by Steve Compton, aka Klompton.

So, Klompton, can you verify that the kidney blows were prohibited in ALL those fights you've shown ?
Do you have the contracts or agreements to those fights, or failing that, the specific rules in which they were even probably fought under, and/or the regular rules of the local commissions (if applicable) at that time ?

 

Cherrypicker Crapton strikes again. Can anyone tell me why in his years on these boards he never wrote that the physician assigned to the bout found no evidence or injury from a foul blow?

Can anyone tell me why he never wrote that many accounts state Sharkey wore his trunks high ("Sharkeys old trick").

Why did Krapton never state that many watching the film of the bout did not see those three punches as low.

The reason? He is a CHERRYPICKER. He chooses only the side of the story that helps his predetermined opinion.

 

Haha what a reply, o wise you must know there is no film on Greb, so that cant be done, but that has given me an idea for a new thread on Greb's foul tactics, cos there are plenty of examples in the reports and articles of the times and by people who fought and saw him.

 

An interesting sidelight development is a last minute question as to whether Dempsey will be permitted to use the rabbit punch.
Montana's boxing law makes no provisions as to barred blows, although regulations in all Montana's clubs have in the past barred the rabbit, kidney and pivot punches. Eddie Kane, Gibbons' manager, has declared the champion may use any blow above the belt. Kane said "Dempsey can't hit Gibbons with a glove factory, let him use the rabbit punches or any blow he wants to employ. Gibbons won't be there when Dempsey socks, that's all. We're not worring about Dempsey's rabbit punch".

 

I think this is the alternate view people are alluding to:

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I have a feeling kidney punches and rabbit punches were barred in New York though, despite what some of the American press claimed after the Louis-Schmeling fight in 1938.
Whether the rules could have been waivered for individual championship fights I don't know, but I doubt it.

 

In hovering, them were the rules of the day, good sir, rabbit punching, hitting after the bell name one fighter who didnt indulge every now and then unlike Greb who did it all the time. You forgot to mention Benny Leonard. Prof, you seem to not know that there are 4 sides to a ring, and each side gets a different view, a punch that looks low on one side doesnt look low on the other side. Leonard said he saw the blow, he apparently was mistaken, all you have to do is view the effects of the blow, especially when Sharkey is dragged to his corner. Sharkey was involved in a low blow incident himself and therein lies the difference. in case you missed it

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The prof knows he is not gonna answer cos it doesnt fit his version of things. Watch SRR, the kidney punch was one of his favorites

 

You could say the same for Jack Johnson, hitting and holding, hitting on the break, pinching his opponents biceps, going low in many fights and being DQ'd for doing it.



Dirtiest heavies:

Godfrey
Golota
Sharkey
Dempsey
Johnson
Marciano
Liston

You could add Holyfield and Tyson on the list too. Tyson with his elbows, and Holyfield with the head butts.

Lennox Lewis could bend the rules at times too.