Wladimir Klitschko vs Riddick Bowe

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I didn't see any. I saw him neutralise Haye's wild over hand sing by taking a step backwards. Haye not having the foot work to move himself into position and follow up with an successive attack is why he lost and why Wlad was able to evade him by taking a simple step back..
    They admitted that themselves after the fight. Haye has only two phases of attack going forward . A right hand and some sort of hook. He was terribly off balance after each phase.
    When he penetrated with the second phase WK pressed down on his back piece so he couldn't move. He did that so many times he got a point deducted so that tells you what facet of his performance worked the most for him.

    Really it should have been Haye looking to hold onto Wlad in close , not the other way around. And the fact Wlad never came close to downing Haye or even hurting him is shocking in itself.
    That fight was his Mike Spinks albeit Haye being far inferior to Spinks. All that said to me was how dire the post Lewis landscape was.
    I don't think Haye - who was no more than euro level- would last a wet week in this era's cruiser weight division.

    Fury did. Bowe managed much greater length on his right hand.

    Sure he would since since his jab was much longer and snappier . Unlike Wlad he could jab on the move and jab his way inside.
    Wlad jab is the most overrated punch in history. Its a myth.
    He was out jabbed by Williamson, Brock , Pulev and Fury. What great jabbers did he ever fight or beat? He couldn't keep walking stump Sam Peter at the end of his jab to save his life.
    Carlos Takam had more success controlling Povetkin with his jab.
    I really believe that Wlad would be an easier fight for Bowe then Pireer Coatzer was , and that wasn't even a tough fight.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    And Bowe dropped Golota like yesterdays news and fractured his jaw and punched a horrible hole through his cheek so big you could actually see his teeth.


    Golota didn't do chit but combo his ball sack because when the heat was turned on him he simply couldn't handle it. You sound like a guy who never felt the pain of a nut shot in his life , or maybe your stones are just so small they evaded the impact :cool1:
    And again , nothing at all to do with how Wlad fares against Golota. He can't slip , or rough up , or fight in any trench.

    Lighter on his feet ? Yeah , as long as its on the same spot where he uses 6 inches of illegal memory foam to bounce up and down so he can thrust left hook into non moving statues like Pulev.
    Show me a fight where he his light feet allows him to move all around the ring?
    ATG jab and concussive straight shots? :risas3:
    Completely redundant when a guy presents him with the most basic of movement. Bowe didn't need you standing still and lined up . He created his own opening with superior movement and balance.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It impressed me anyways, I'd never seen him evade attack like that with movement before.

    Wlad has no leverage inside so any time anyone gets near he ties up, Haye has the shorter arms by far so would get the better exchanging up close.

    Haye would clean up CW now. The division is terribly unimpressive talent wise, but the best are fighting each other which means more to me anyways.

    Fury was quicker and had a longer reach. He basically out Wlad'd Wlad.

    He was out jabbed by only Fury. Pulev looked to have as strong a jab pre fight but we know now that was a lie. Williamson had success with an overhand right from mid range, he didn't out jab him at all. Brock was a punching bag, albeit a well educated one.

    His jab is his best punch because he has very quick hands for someone his size and he is dedicated to fighting at range so muh so he does anti boxing up close by hugging and holding. Bowe isn't the man to out jab him he's too slow, ponderous, open and lacks the discipline. Punch for punch at range Wlad is one of the best ever. It's just every other range of fighting he looks inept and hopeless.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Makes no difference to the fact that Golota had dominated Bowe FROM THE OUTSIDE and rendered his jab all but useless. Klitschko has a better and harder jab than Golota.

    Sorta like Bowe used to do to other guys? Karma and all that.

    53 KO's says that you DKSAB.

    YOU were the guy that said Pulev would beat Wlad. Not only did Wlad destroy Pulev but yeah, he was very light on his feet in that one, thanks for helping out my argument. :)

    53 KOs says that you DKSAB.

    :risas3::risas3::risas3:

    Riddick "Leadfoot" Bowe compared to Wlad.
     
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    Don't agree with everything that you said - but that was a fair and reasoned post, and a good read. Unlike a certain other deluded individual on this thread.
     
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    True, wlad takes a step back from an telegraphed overhand thrown by a euro level cruiser- good defense,
    Bowe slips, rolls, and actually counters atg holyfield in his prime- bad defense, huh how so?

    Me too.
     
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  7. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    HAHA!!! She usually reserves liquor up front.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you keep saying this, but woul;d be kind enough to point out which one of the 53 actually backs up your statement?

    i could ko 54 bums, doesnt mean I can claim that you DKSAB.
     
  9. latineg

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    stop dreaming Herol.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    dreaming about him answering the question, yes. he wont.
     
  11. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    no, dreaming that you could actually beat a bum in any ring, lmao

    lets not forget you were never a boxer.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Only man to KO (and beat) Pulev
    Knocked the very tough Povetkin down 4 times
    Pianeta has 2 losses ... and Wlad popped his cherry
    KO'd Thompson twice ... the only man to do so until Ortiz managed to KO Old Thompson
    First man to KO Peter
    First man to beat Chagaev, retired him

    .... wait, why am I wasting my time with this?

    Are you seriously arguing that Wlad can't hit hard?

    You and Dino must be the only utterly delusional nincompoops around to make that argument.

    There's plenty of things that you could knock him on, but punching power ain't one of them.
     
  13. BCS8

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    Herol had a schoolfight once. It was epic.

    A fellow six-year old stole his pencil. He marched straight up and demanded it back. After a five minute shoving tussle the girl finally gave up and handed it back. It was his finest moment :campeon:
     
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  14. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    later it was discovered that girl was named Dina who later had a operation and changed her name to Dino :applaudit:
     
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  15. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    every few months Herol takes me off ignore only to immediately find out why he put me there in the first place :bunny: