Guys who took dives

SP here is a recent example IBO CW title fight Danny Green v Paul Briggs it was on PPV in Australia,with a very interesting backstory that the veteran historians on here will no doubt be aware of.To me Paul Briggs shouldn't of been in there,he wasn't fit to fight but as history tells us in boxing as in life,he needed the money.The pictures tell there own story but here it is if you or anyone else has never seen it.Available on youtube.

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Gans

 

The two most prominent cases might be Joe Gans vs Terry McGovern and Willy Pep vs Lulu Perez, neither of which was ever admitted by Joe or Pep. In Pep's case he became angry in interviews when asked about it and refused to give credit to the question. The short right hand landed on him by the light hitting Lulu and Pep on one knee shaking his supposed dazed nogin seems a huge stretch to believe especially if you've viewed some of the shots Willy took from Saddler. The question never answered though is why, Willy never seemed to benefit from it and no ties were ever proven. With Joe you'd have to believe the first right hand Terry caught him with put him out on his feet and thats tough to do. Nat Fleischer rated Terry the greatest bantam in history and wrote a book about his prime but said of the Gan's fight, "Terry was good but he wasn't that good." As to why nothing solid ever came to light from that long ago fight but the speculation is that Joe took home a decent payoff and the result never hurt him.

 

Malik Scott vs Deontay Wilder

Scott a known friend of Wilder coming off a tko loss in one of his last two fights before this bout is granted a title eliminator against Wilder despite only defeating a 7-12 opponent in his previous bout. Wilder also as of this point has faced abysmal Competition that should not warrant a title eliminator. Many people are suspicious going into the fight that it may not be on the level.
During the match the opening round plays out as a sparring session with neither man doing much. Then Scott a good technician when he applies himself lines up perfectly for Wiilder against the ropes. Wilder throws a slapping left hand around Scott's guard that lands followed by a straight right hand that misses the target and hits nothing. Second angle clearly shows this.
Scott slides to the canvas never losing eye contact with Wilder the sign of a man who still has his faculties. Wilder immediately turns away from him runs to a corner and gloats to the crowd never once looking back at his fallen opponent to see if he has risen to beat the count. As if he knew the outcome was already decided.

The aftermath.
Wilder faces more derision from his critics and Scott is rightfully rediculed for his performance. No investigation is made.

Could be a dive or just a quit job.

 

Not that he ever believed he could win but these sort of discussions the Mike Tyson v Bruce Seldon fight was a joke.

Seldon wasn't touched the first KD he dived,dogged the fight the crowd were chanting 'FIX' iirc?

 

Bruce the Mouse Strauss. He was the best actor. He made it look real. And he could fight. He made more money loosing than winning.

 

lol That KO reminds a lot the first "knockdown" of Tyson vs Seldon fight. Knocked down by a gust of wind..... Shameful.....

 

Go to Box rec and type in Primo Carnera.

 

There was that American heavyweight (I thought he was a pro wrestler before), who was fighting the same guy over and over again in different states with different names who always took a dive within 2 rounds, just to scam his sponsor who offered him money if he stayed unbeaten.
I forgot his name.

 

Ive always felt the seldon fight wasnt a dive. the green-briggs fight though, that was a dive but i think it was because paul just came for a payday and didnt want anymore brain damage.

 

Sharkey Carnera?

 

This is as absurd a dive as I've ever seen ..

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