Teddy Atlas exposes the defensive deficiencies in Wilder's game.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nat Turner, Dec 25, 2016.


  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury is good for a lush. I mean laugh. Picked Martin over Joshua tells you all you need of know about his picks.
     
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  2. Nat Turner

    Nat Turner Member banned Full Member

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    Why are you bringing up two black fighters. You not listening. Did you even watch the videos that I just posted? Again, IT'S A STYLE THING. Have you heard that Phrase "style make fights" ?
     
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  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Two boxers that used peds that happen to be two fighters I like a lot. That is why I brought them up - because you said Povetkin is a ped using bum so I guess you feel that way about them as well.
    And yes I watched your video. I already saw before where Fury shows a picture of Povetkin standing next to him and picks Wilder.
    Styles do make fights - look what Povetkin did to Wach and Duhaupas too tall fighters more defensively responsible than Wilder. He toyed with them. Maybe you should follow another sport you're pretty clueless.
     
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  4. Itsoblywight

    Itsoblywight Member banned Full Member

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    ukad cheat fury picked wlad to stop aj in 6 rounds also, he's saying things based on jealousy nothing else
     
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  5. Nat Turner

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    Dude seriously? You're bring up Duhaupas? Duhaupas had no training camp whatsoever. Besides, he no Wach posses the punching power and the athleticism that Wilder does.
    Had Vladimir let his hands go, we won't be having this conversation as Povetkin would have been old news.
    Look I'm afraid that we're gonna go back and forth on this topic till dawn, so let just agree to disagree.
     
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  6. The Long Count

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    Wilder didn't give Duhaupas much of a training camp either. And he was on retainer for this fight and staying in shape for another fight regardless. We can remove him from the equation. Just based on Resumes Povetkin is miles ahead of Wilder. He has a track record of beating good fighters wilder does not.
    I'll Leave it at that and agree to disagree. Merry Christmas and happy holidays
     
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  7. Nat Turner

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    You grabbing at straw buddy. Duhaupas had a training camp for Wilder, did he for Povetkin? Say the truth. Povetkin has been a professional way longer than Wilder so of course he should have a more stacked resume than Wilder. Besides, who did Povetkin beat?
     
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  8. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    :roflmao::roto2rie:
     
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  9. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
  10. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are grabbing at straws and by the way you didn't answer my question before is Holyfield and Toney ped bums.
    The question is who has Wilder beat to even believe he is on the same level as Povekin?
    Povetkin holds wins over Chagaev, Chambers, Takam, Huck, Perez, Wach, Charr, not to mention a Chris Byrd yes a shot Chris Byrd but in his like 12th pro fight.
    Wilder is 31 years old has had more professional bouts than Povetkin and is facing Wawrzcyk in his 38th fight.
    You can't compare the two? I hope you're not trying to because that would be clutching at straws.
    Shot Arreola and Jason Gavern who took the fight on one day notice are a joke. As is Molina. And Duhaupas.
    Wilder has fought NOBODY. It's not even up for debate.
     
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  11. Nat Turner

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    How many of those guys you mentioned will make the Hall fame. They only guy that stands out on the list is Huck and it can be argued that he beat Sasha despite being a cruiserweight.
    I bet if Wilder had beaten guys on Sasha list, you'll claim that he's beaten nobody.
    Look, I'm not here to defend Wilder, we all know his record is garbage but let's not act like Povetkin have fought who is who in the world of boxing.
    Despite the poor state of Wilder's record you should be giving credit, when you consider the fact that he got into the sports very late. Despite all that, the man still managed to win Bronze at the Olympics.
     
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  12. Angler Andrew

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    AJ would KO Wilder with defence like that,explains his level of competition though doesn't it?
     
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    You are an amazing human being.
     
  14. The Long Count

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    How many guys will make the hall of fame? Nice way to move the goal posts. There are only two hall of fame heavyweights that patrolled the division In the last 13 years both named klitschko.
    Povetkin has a very solid resume of good heavyweights in their prime. The second best resume among active heavyweights. There is no disputing that and no I would give Wilder credit if he had names on his resume as good as Povetkin's but he doesn't.
    As for Huck fight I clearly have has Povetkin winning that fight always have. To me it's 8-4 or 7-5 at best for Huck who was an extremely good cruiserweight for a long time. It's a quality win.
    As for Wilder congrats on the Olympic Bronze that will be a memory he always has. I believe it was a dq because the opponent bent below the waistline but still to medal at the Olympics is impressive.
    I'm more focused on his pro career though.
    What's your thoughts on Holyfield and Toney are they Ped Bums?
     
  15. gmurphy

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    No he medaled at the olympics because hethe softest draw ever, he only had to best two stumpy out of shape africans to get to the semis. And even at that he struggled badly and most people had him losing one of the fights.

    In the semis Russo beat him so badly and made him look so bad the commentary were taken the complete mick out of Wilder and calling him the biggest disgrace to american Olympic boxing they had ever seen
     
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