Teddy Atlas exposes the defensive deficiencies in Wilder's game.

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Nothing like listening to Teddy Atlas beaking down and exposing a fraud.
     
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    Teddy Atlas is a curse, nobody wants him on their team. Did a great job guiding Bradley to a **** gameplan trying to turn a puncher into a boxer just means he loses easier. Just a loud mouth with an opinion. Did a great job with pedvetkin who doesn't have good things to say about him.
     
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    Wilder has some of the worst footwork I've ever seen in a HW. He needs to learn to keep his spine straight, and not have such a wide stance.
     
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    After 2mins and 39secs technically dismantling Wilder as a bar room brawler Atlas says: 'Look, we're not trying to criticise anyone'. Lol, I'd hate to hear the bad stuff....
     
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    Bradley was a boxer long before he changed to a crowd pleasing puncher style and had most of his success boxing.
     
  6. Nat Turner

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    Vladimir Klitschko is a sure first ballot hall of famer, not sure about his brother...... I mean who did he beat? His record is no better than Povetkin. Yes, Toney is a PED cheat, but at his prime would have beat the **** out of that fat fraud.
    As for Evander Holyfield, Holyfield has never tested positive for PED.........If I'm lying, prove it. If you combine Hayes criuserweight record, it defecate's all over Povetkin. Unlike Povetkin who was a mere title holder, Haye was an actual champion and won more rounds against Vladimir than Povetkin did. Wilder and Povetkin both fought bumbs with Povetkin having a slightly better record by virtue of being a pro longer than Wilder, which is not saying much. Dude stop trying to big this fraud into something that he isn't. The guys is a decent fighter in a terrible weight class.
     
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    Real bad cop out on Holyfield I knew that question would expose you. Anyone with a brain knows Holy was on the juice and I'm a fan of his.
    Being that you've been exposed no need to take this discussion further your bias is clear. Happy Holidays.
     
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    Its simply a disclaimer so not to incite any riots from Wilder's fanboys and doesn't find himself at the end of a bullet.
     
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    Why even bother talking about Povetkin? Dude likely has been cheating his entire career.
     
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    Wilders management must know he's questionable against the top ten level heavies. Wilder himself must also be wary of the top heavies

    If he were to ever step up, Wilder gets beat by Pov., Haye, Wlad, Ortiz. Possibly gets beaten by Joshua and maybe Parker, too
     
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    The thing is Bradley needed to engage more but Atlas gave no such advice. Just his pseudo psychological melodrama he likes to pull when on tv. Bradley sitting back and letting Pac just take rounds by leading first. Everytime Bradley lead pac looked vunderable. I don't know what that gameplan was but Bradley lost by a larger margin than the other fights.
     
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    I think Wilder would have target practice on them.
    Toney's nearing 300lbs, has been caught roiding like 6X, and is a natural LHW/CW in build.
    Holyfield hasnt had a fight in 5+yrs, and even at 49 he was being outboxed by gatekeeper Sherwin Williams. Now, 54 y/o, and having slipped badly since his last solid performance vs Botha in 2010, would not have the agility needed to slip and counter like he once did when roughing up Valuev at 43 y/o. ALSO.....a KNOWN ROIDER....no way Wilder allows him into the ring.

    FFS, Potvetkin used heart meds that kept vessels from constricting, which is only banned for patent purposes and geopolitics, and Ostarine, a oldish drug, that many supplement makers are sneaking into products to outperform their rivals, not caring that a couple professionals may end up being railroaded in their attempts to maximize profits.
     
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    Liar. Duhaupas did have a 5-6 weeks training camp for Wilder compared to just 12 hours against PED cheat Pov.

    How can you say Duhaupas was in shape and prepared vs Pov when he came in almost 20 lbs heavier? He even wore basketball shoes for goodness sakes...

    And why did Pov have to ingest the heart med meldonium before the Wilder fight? I guess he does not have the heart to face Wilder on fair grounds.

    Anyway styles make fights and I think Wilder KOs Povetkin if they ever fought.
     
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    Someone needs to inform Teddy that Wilder's biggest weakness is his absolutely pathetic glass jaw.
     
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    You forgot old shot Rahman as mandated by the WBA, and popping Warwyks cherry inside 3 rds. Something Wilder will likely take 6-9 rds to do or end up layed out on the canvas himself. Warwzyks is actually the better overall boxer than Wilder is, and with a similar size, a lesser reach advantage than he normally enjoys, this could be a fight in which we may be pleasantly surprised.
    Wawryk may perform as well or better than Szpilka, whom we all know to have just as bad a chin as AW and not as good overall skill or power.
    While this is a terribly soft defense, outside of Pulev, Potvetkin, Ortiz(????), Wlad, Fury's, Browne, Joshua, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz Jr, or even Miller or Washington, it's no worse than Molina, or shot to bits Arreola.
     
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