Name for name: Carl Froch resume vs Joe Calzaghe resume

Froch easy he travelled and did not have the ref in his pocket

Reid beat Joe
Enzo knew it Joe knew it and so did fwank
All three told him it was to close and the rematch needed to happen and like all fwank fighters it never did
Ask ones self why
Reid outlander him and had the over all punch out put this against some one who was famous for volume and workrate
Tweet Reid and ask him your self

 

Yes but you dont really know except for what you have lived and watched yourself. The fact you think Froch beat better fighters? Who and when in their careers? Remember he lost to a faded Kessler that Calzaghe beat

 

Kessler faded but bhop and Jones were not look gtfoh
Viet twice lol
Its all about the money man so money is put on the table
Nah its all bout the belts so he brings the one you dropped canelo style
Nah it ain't about money or belts its about legacy man

Joes own words
Walking contradiction

 

Even stuff we have lived through and watched ourselves we don't really know. That is the nature of a subjective sport.

Thankfully you tube has a lot of notable fights throughout history, boxrec has a lot of notable records throughout history, google has a lot of notable articles throughout history and authors have written a lot of notable books throughout history.

It is a fact that I think Froch beat better fighters, yes. The who is in his record and the when is obviously when he faced them.

Both Froch and Calzaghe beat Kessler.

 

Remember what I wrote about not listening? You are not listening at all. You were not around to comment.
Of course you know more about what you lived through. Thats a ridiculous comment. Yes history is documented but its not the same as living it. You can read a book on a world war but its not the same as talking to someone who lived something and who can give first hand accounts of what they saw.
Now you may feel Froch has beaten better fighters which I disagree with due to having knowledge of the sport on both eras, so I ask again, who do you feel these better fighters are? You ducked that which makes you look like someone who makes comments on things they know little about. You didnt want to comment and gave a pathetic answer.
I noted Froch had lost to Kessler who Calzaghe had beaten and you said they both beat Kessler, which is correct but you also fail to mention it took Froch 2 attempts to beat Kessler and do you think Kessler was the same in his last fight against Froch? He was not overly active at that time in his career and had been away with eye problems.
So who do YOU feel are these better fighters?

 

Two attempts lol
Something Joe would not do unless your named Viet
Reid wanted his nard wanted his hell he would not give froch one and this could have all been put to bed by them man himself unfortunately froch was not old enough

 

As I said, almost all of boxing was around before me.

But we aren't talking about WW1. We're talking about a sport I can still watch fights from long before I was born.

I didn't duck, I told you the names are in his record and the when was when he beat them.

I didn't need to mention Kessler beat Froch, you already did that for me. Why would I bother repeating something?

Help me to help you. Do your list of Joe's ten best victories and then I'll reply with the same for Froch and we can compare case by case.

 

Reid didnt outland at all
Reid

Ask yourself this. How could you not score rounds 2, 3, 4,7, 8 (Reid also had a point deduction in that round), 12 to Calzaghe? Remember Reid had a point deducted also.

I thought like 2 judges that Calzaghe was a clear winner and except for McCrory who scored a draw when in a pro Reid crowd, all of the other studio guest scored wide for Calzaghe including Mcguigan and Eubank. I also think damaged handed (damaged his hand in round 4) Calzaghe won and felt he won rounds 1, 9 (Reid did land the punch of the night in round 9 though) & 11.

Good away win for Calzaghe

Reid wouldnt fight Calzaghe when he was champ

I doubt you will watch those rounds and answer though, but you definately wont be able to answer how you feel Reid won any of these rounds 2, 3, 4,7, 8 (Reid also had a point deduction in that round), 12

 

As you have ducked and cannot answer then I will partly take you up on your request because we will go around in circles.
Tell me what wins you feel Froch has greater than
Prime undefeated Kessler
Hopkins when LHW world champ
31 year old Eubank who had no clear losses on his resume at that point

 

I didn't read past the first sentence then.

If you want to resort to childish name calling that is your perogative, I just don't see the need for it.

I have asked you to provide a list of Joe's top ten victories and said I will respond with the same for Froch.

If you wish to resort to further name childish behaviour we can end the conversation here.

 

Once again you have made some mistakes
Joe had to fight Veit or be stripped and Veit declared champ
Havent a clue what you are saying here "Reid wanted his nard wanted his"?
As for Froch, when was Froch a real option? Froch didnt even win a SMW title until after Calzaghe had moved up from SMW, won 2 LHW title fights and retired! If you dont know that then you shouldnt be commenting.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/extra/441991-froch-says-no-go-to-joe-calzaghe


Froch not wanting to face Calzaghe
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/article2395099.ece

Originally Posted by Decebal http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...s/viewpost.gif
...but he wasn't brave, and didn't want glory and recognition, so Calzaghe had no reason to be interested in him.

Froch only has himself to blame for not registering on Calzaghe's radar. Froch had the chance to make a name for himself earlier, and force Calzaghe to fight him, but chose not to:

In early 2007, the IBF announced that an eliminator fight would take place to get a shot against the IBF Champ Berrio, within a couple of months.

Bute was ranked highest, followed by Froch and Inkin.

Bute said he wanted in. Froch was asked if he wanted to face Bute in the eliminator. He declined and prepared to face Tatevosyan, a journeyman, the man Bute had just taken to school, instread. Inkin declined the opportunity to fight Bute in the eliminator too. The IBF went down the list until they got to Bika, who took up the offer.

Bute fought and beat Bika and then fought Berrio, for the title, in October 2007. Froch fought shot Reid the following month, for the British title, and said he's have KOed both Bute and Berrio on the same night. He also said he was ready to step up, now.

Now he says he'll KO Bute in six rounds, having beaten Rybacki and Pascal, with the Taylor fight not even out of the way.

It's a shame Froch decided to dodge Bute, the man he could have KOed in six rounds, because he could have become IBF Champ in October 2007.

Calzaghe beat Kessler in November 2007. He then looked around and said: there's no one else for me to wait at 168 lbs for. But, things could have been different! After Kessler lost to Calzaghe, he called out Bute and everyone else at 168 lbs, Pavlik, Taylor, Hopkins, etc., but Bute, for example, said he wasn't ready for the likes of Calzaghe or Kessler yet.

If Froch had KOed Bute in six rounds, he could have then beaten Kessler in early 2008, and he'd have had as good a claim to challenge Calzaghe as anyone. No way in hell could Calzaghe have not fought him! The fans would not have allowed it! He couldn't have claimed he was obviously the man at 168 lbs...The money this fight would have made would have been huge!!! So...we could have witnessed Calzaghe v. Froch in 2008...

...but Froch dodged Bute, the man he then claimed he's have KOed on the same night as Berrio, and the man he now claims he'd KO in six rounds, and he fought Bute's leftovers instead...

...a brave man who wanted glory and recognition and who wanted to fight the best?

He could have fought Calzaghe in the biggest British fight for decades, for all the glory and recognition in the world, and for an 8 figure payday, but he chose not to...

...oh, well...:conf

...I guess it's all Calzaghe's fault...:yep

 

Then read all of it instead of looking for a way out. I wrote I will partly take you up on your request because we will go around in circles.
Tell me what wins you feel Froch has greater than
Prime undefeated Kessler
Hopkins when LHW world champ
31 year old Eubank who had no clear losses on his resume at that point

 

Looking for a way out of what?

I've asked you to provide the best ten wins for Joe so we can discuss case by case.

There is no need to go round in circles, this is a forum with the sole intent of debating boxing.

Provide your list and we'll go from there.

 

I only need to give you 3 and you didnt answer. I could have then given another 3 and so on. You wouldnt even give me any names. If I answered with your answer it would be the names on the resume. lol. But I didnt do that I gave you 3 names and you havent given me one counter name.
As said you were not really around and although you claim to have all these sources of information, they have not assisted you at all.