Ray Mercer vs Joe Frazier

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  1. Unforgiven

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    I'll say it like this : Bonavena was better than Mercer.
     
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  2. red cobra

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    Yes, I agree...I think he was too.
     
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  3. ticar

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    Talk about physique, even eddie futch said that frazier had the worst body of all champs. 235 mercer looked rock solid compared to peak frazier, gave lewis hell and ate them punches like ham and eggs in the morning... He wouldn't have to worry about frazier's power, and was a monster puncher who will have plenty of chances to land on a so-so chin of frazier
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    He looked fat as hell at 238 against Lewis.
     
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    like i said, mercer was porky at 235, overweight full of fat, mercer even at 220 looked packed of mass
     
  6. Perry

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    Mercer was not much of a fighter in actuality. Joe would outwork him and win the decision in a one sided bout.
     
  7. ticar

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    Fat???

    He sure does look rock solid, with thick torso and traps here...

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    If he's fat here, than lewis also is... Not to mention frazier and holmes physique
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    If you can't see that fat gut and those love handles, you need glasses.
    Mercer fat as hell against Lewis, at 236 or 238 or whatever.
    "thick torso and traps" has no bearing on it.
    You can go find a thousand fat strongmen and fat nightclub bouncers that have all that. Doesn't change the fact they are fat.
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    For comparison, prime Frazier :

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  10. Perry

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    My god how great these two were. First minute of round one they exhibit more skill than any hwt today in an entire bout.
     
  11. ticar

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    Mercer looks strong and fit here, and the evidence supports it- going 10 hard rounds with lewis and not getting manhandled in the clinch.
    Who gives a **** if he doesn't have a six pack?
    W. Klitschko is ripped and has stamina problems, Bowe was never ripped and went 12 hard rounds with prime holyfield.

    10 pounds does make the difference, even if it's fat, it's simple physics, heavier man is always stronger in the clinches...
    205 frazier would look weak and would get manhandled vs 235 strong mercer
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    Mercer was huffing and puffing doing 10 rounds with Lewis. Not in great condition at all.
    If he'd come in 20 pounds lighter he would have won without a doubt.

    He just wasn't in Frazier's class. This thread is getting a bit silly.
     
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  13. juppity

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    Ray Mercer was big , strong but limited boxing skills. Joe would slip his jab and hammer him with his fabled left hook. Joe
    has the superior skills inside and though Ray is always dangerous Joe would punish Ray into a unanimous decision.
     
  14. ticar

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    Yea tyson fury is fat, how the hell did he beat the ripped wlad k?
    I guess if he was 20 lbs lighter with six pack he would have ko wlad in few rounds
     
  15. Perry

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    Who did Mercer ever stop that proves he can hit? Only Morrison but we all know the Morrison durability was questionable. I'd rank Mercers power as average.