De la Hoya, Trinidad, Mosley - in what order do you rank them?

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

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    How do you rank these stars from 90s - early 00s? And why?
     
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  2. McGrain

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    De La Hoya



    Trinidad














































    Mosley
     
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    This.
     
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  4. Big Ukrainian

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    Why exactly such a big gap? Cause Mosley has been caught on PEDs or for another reason?
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think his best weight is 135. Here, he managed only 3 wins over ranked opposition, including nobody very special. 147 and Margarito saved him from fistic footnotedom as far as i am concerned.

    Unless you mean head to head. He'd be a horrible nights work for Benny Leonard for example. But based upon what he actually did, Mosley isn't in the same class. In part because of the drugs thing yes.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    I'll have to watch the fights between these 3 again to decide who goes where.
    Those were close fights. These 3 ought to be considered close.
     
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    You rank Oscar highest by a mile despite being 0-3 against these guys??
     
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    How did everyone score the fights ?
    They all looked pretty close to me.
     
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    Nah - i don't have Oscar a mile above Trinidad.
     
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    I personally scored De La Hoya-Trinadad 7-5 Oscar so no robbery IMO. Oscar should have won that fight easily but Oscar only has himself to blame for making it a close fight.

    Oscar-Mosley I was a clear as day Mosley win IMO. Oscar-Mosley II should be a no contest really, but as for who "won" the fight, i know many call it a robbery, i though Oscar probably deserved to win but it was a very close fight IMO.

    The fact is though he's 0-3 against them.
     
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    Even if you ignore the fact that if the judges were looking at the fights correctly and had him 2-1 in those fights, are you really going to ignore the career arcs of all three and not see the larger body of work DLH did? Head to head is only one aspect of ranking them and not really the most accurate anyway, because using that method assumes the respective opponents are all at their absolute best and doesn't factor styles into anything. That matters too.

    It just so happens that they WERE at or near their respective best during this time, but still......
     
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    Yeah, maybe I misunderstood. If it's a h2h list you can have them in any order you like and there's a very good argument for having Oscar on the bottom.

    I thought it was about what they did in their careers and such.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    De la Hoya.
    Trinidad.
    Mosely.
     
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    De La Hoya
    Mosley
    Trinidad

    Numbers 65,66,67 respectively on my atg list.

    Numbers 10,11,12 respectively on my WW list.
     
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