Your Top 5 Matches That Could Have Been Made But Weren't?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Which are your 5 picks of fights that could have happened but for one reason or another did not?
    E.G.
    Lewis v Bowe
    Pedroza vSanchez
    McGuigan v Nelson
    Arguello v Duran
    Conteh v Galindez
     
  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Mayweather vs Pacman ( 2008)

    Foreman vs Ali 2

    Tyson vs Holyfield (1991)

    Lewis vs Bowe

    Vitali klitchko vs Lewis 2
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Could have been made but weren't.
     
  4. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Julian Jackson vs James Toney

    Mike McCallum - Tommy Hearns
     
  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What fight are you referring too?
     
  6. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The only one of your picks that did not happen in the pro ranks was Lewis v Bowe.

    To save time, if you want to be pedantic ,don't bother,I'm not interested in arguments over jack sh*t.
     
  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Did you not take your meds today? Your post states fights that didn't happen but couldv'e...that would be Bowe not dumping his belt in the trash and thus the fight is made. you even listed that fight yourself so again another total mind blowing response on your part...lol

    Your Top 5 Matches That Could Have Been Made But Weren't?

    This is your thread right above???? :bash:
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Riddick Bowe vs. Lennox Lewis - Bowe dumped the WBC belt rather than fight Lewis in 1993. Lewis and Bowe could've fought in 1994, but Lewis lost to McCall.

    Lennox Lewis vs. Vitali Klitschko 2 - Vitali won an eliminator against Kirk Johnson. Lewis decided to retire on top with his title, money and brains. Good move. But would've liked to have seen the rematch.

    Lennox Lewis vs. Wlad Klitschko - Wlad was a top contender for Lennox's title in 2000. Vitali lost to Byrd. So Wlad was pressured by their promoter to go after Byrd's WBO belt. After that, Wlad wasn't rated by the other orgs Lewis represented and Vitali ended up getting a top rating and maneuvered his way into a shot against Lewis.

    Wlad Klitschko vs. Vitali Klitschko - The top two heavyweights in the world post-Lewis. Decided to form their own promotional company and "SHARE" the title. As a result, the top two dominant heavyweights never faced each other for the better part of a decade, making the division completely irrelevent. So a whole generation of boxing fans came to the sport not even giving the heavyweight division a second thought. I understand they were brothers, but they also did enormous damage to the entire sport by making the heavyweight division pointless for nearly 10 years.

    Larry Holmes vs. George Foreman (1977/1978) - Both were promoted by Don King. Both were the same age (28/29). Foreman was a former champ looking to rebound after a surprising decision loss to Young. Holmes was a rising contender and, in 1978, the WBC champ. Foreman was better than Lyle and Norton (top WBC contenders in 1978). Holmes was better than Shavers, Leon Spinks and Norton (barely). Would've been a great fight as a 12-round eliminator in 1977 or as a 15-round WBC title fight in 1978. But Foreman found Jesus in 1977 and retired at 28. It should've happened. They could've fought two or three times.
     
  10. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wlad vs Vitali couldnt have been made ...they werent going to fight at any point. i THINK this is what the thread is about ...im not sure the TS isnt even sure....lol
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'll have -

    Dempsey-Wills
    Burley-Robinson
    Walcott-Ryan
    Ketchel-Burns
    Dempsey-Greb
     
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    C*nt face now on ignore.
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sure it could've been made. Nobody blocked it but the Klitschko brothers. Promoters and television networks like HBO approached them about making that fight all the time. It was the only heavyweight SUPER FIGHT to be made. They were the two best. Everyone in the world would've watched.

    Other brothers faced each other in the ring. I understand why they didn't, but they had no problems punching each other in the head in sparring. They even stopped doing that because they would bash each other around pretty good. They weren't afraid to hit each other. They did it quite a bit - before they DECIDED to stop doing it.

    It was MUCH EASIER and made financial sense to form a promotional company and stage four heavyweight title fights a year rather than just have one of them be the champ and only stage one or two heavyweight title fights a year.

    They BOTH made a pile of money off EACH OTHER's title defenses (thanks to owning their promotional company).

    Ali and Frazier would've made a lot of money if they kept a title split and "shared" the proceeds, too, and refused to fight each other. They could've gone on beating up Quarrys and Lyles and Bugners forever. And if Foreman beat Frazier, Ali could avenge Joe and Joe never would've had to face George again. Just like Joe could've spanked Norton for Ali. The Klitschkos did that for each other, too.

    And it probably would've prolonged both their lives. But it would've hurt the sport if they never fought. Same thing.

    It hurts the sport and hurts specific divsions when the two best in a division don't fight or prefer to keep the titles split. Same thing with the Klitschkos. They kept the titles split so they could both profit. But it did hurt the division and the sport overall not having the two best fight for 10 years. Boxing isn't a team sport. IF you lose, you don't ask your teammate to beat the guy for you and "avenge" your loss. You're supposed to do it yourself.

    And the sport needs the top guys in the divisions to fight fairly often. When they don't, fans lose interest.

    That's what happened to the heavyweights when the Klitschkos shared the title.
     
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  14. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No it couldnt they were never going to fight,that is what the thread is ..I THINK ??? possible match ups, the two brothers were NEVER going to agree....other than that good matches otherwise.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Just from this year?

    Fury v Wlad 2
    Lebedev v Glowacki
    Stevenson v Kovalev
    DeGale v Jack
    Canelo v Golovkin

    I find more and more boxing is failing to deliver meaningful fights between the most elite boxers.

    I find it really frustrating and off putting. It's like I learn all this stuff about boxing history, legacy, resume comparison, skill set analysis and for what? The fighters today don't care about it. Jamie McDonell is something stupid like a 3 time champion and he doesn't even know who Sugar Ray Leonard is!

    I know it's a business yada yada yada but I don't follow the sport to see who has the best accountant or the best promoter, I follow it to watch competitive fights between the best boxers.

    Instead of the 5 fights I wanted, here's what I got:

    Fury retired with ill health, Wlad remained inactive
    Lebedev and Glowacki were both upset by prospect fighters (which will probably mean I have to wait 5 years for them to fight)
    Stevenson fought Thomas Williams Jr (I don't know who he is neither)
    DeGale v Jack is finally happening now so fair play
    Canelo and Golovkin took turns knocking out WW contenders.

    So out of the 5 I wanted only 20% are becoming a reality.

    **** that.