Cuban boxing - opinions on its style

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  1. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    While Cuba has been known to produce technical fighters who care very little about entertaining anyone but themselves eg lara and rigo

    It has also produced exciting fighters such as gamboa and Perez.

    What all Cubans suffer from though seems to be lack of discipline SG Perez,gamboa and Solis,Garcia

    Do you think the death of Castro and the change in Cuba will result in more Cuban boxers turning pro? And if so do you think they will continue to suffer from lack of discipline
     
  2. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Its because they never tasted coca cola or eat mc'donalds as a kid in cuba. When they move to america they'll gain like 70 lbs because they have access to that stuff.
     
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  3. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A lot will defend on how much funding the government gives to boxing. If the boxing coaches can remain full time and the
    boxers can train full time and can continue to compete in international tournaments yes then they will continue to stay amatuer.
    However the best will get big offers and be tempted to turn pro as Cuba becomes more connected with the rest of the world.
     
  4. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Cubans are the best technical boxers ever. Go back to Stormfront if you dont agree.
     
  5. BCS8

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    Dustin Nichols is Cuban??? I never knew!
     
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  6. bcr

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    I'm a huge fan of Cuban boxing, their history and their boxers.
    Their fanboys sucks and it makes you understand why people dislike them.
    But Cuban boxing is a fascinating thing, they pick boxers since they are kids and put them in the ring since they are 11/12 years old trough his 30's fighting almost every single week and training all day, the perfect example is how fluid they are, since they use to do around 20 rounds of shadowboxing only.
    Trough history, they have changed a lot, Alcides Sagarra one of the top 10 trainers of all time, picked a lot of stuff from the Soviet Union and he created a great system that made lots of champions.
    The prime of Cuban boxing was between the 72 trough the 88, even tho they archived success at the 90's and 00's trough today, back then in the 70's and 80's, before the electronic point system, the cubans used to be more complete boxers and much tougher, now with the changes in amateur boxing, they have become more of a long and mid range boxers and it was disappointing to a certain extent to see the Cuban team results in Rio 2016, because for the first time ever, the whole time was capable of reaching the medal rounds.
    When it comes to pro boxing, there hasn't been a cuban that has fulfilled his chances, that's because a lot of things:
    When the first squad of cubans arrived, they didn't had much support and that didn't help them, they also tried the freedom for the first time and the laziness, the questions about the chin and the quality overall started.
    That includes the likes of Diosbelys Hurtado, Joel Casamayor and Jorge Luis Gonzales.
    The second coming of cuban boxers, is the one active today, the 2004 olympic team which had all of their boxers either retired or turning pro after those olympics.
    The same old song and dance, because this cubans experienced either chin problems, laziness or lack of good management.
    Gamboa: Lack of good management.
    Solis: Laziness.
    Rigondeaux: Lack of good managemnt.
    Barthelemy (Yan): Chin problems.
    Despaigne: Chin problems.
    etc...
    So there hasn't been a top cuban that has fulfilled the expectations, even tho there are plenty of talented cubans.
    I didn't talk about the early pros like Napoles, Rodriguez, Gavilan and Chocolate because they trained in other times with different chances and style.
     
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  7. Kevin Willis

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    Yes absolutely! Clearly anyone who denies Cuba being the cat's meow in terms of boxing is obviously a NAZI who wants everyone holocausted.
     
  8. DoubleJab666

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    Lol you trying to smoke out his latest alt(s)? It's the forum equivalent of a rabbit snare...
     
  9. DoubleJab666

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    Edit: Cubans are the best technical boxers ever! Go back to Stormfront if you dont agree!!!
     
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  10. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    He has just got a permaban lol its more to rub salt in the wounds. You know he would get a hard on just seeing this thread and now he can't post lol
     
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  11. mirkofilipovic

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    Teofillo Stevenson for President! Savon as vice president :angel2:
     
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  12. Savagekat

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    It is a style of "hit and not get hit", the practitioners of which are generally more concerned with winning than entertaining the fans. I for one enjoy it from a boxing science standpoint because I like the technical display of distance, timing, footwork, feinting, etc., but I can understand how some fans might find it less entertaining. A lot of Cuban fighters are very defensive minded and hesitant to engage their opponents, which can make for lackluster fights, especially if the opponent is not skilled enough to force the Cuban style fighter to stand and trade.
     
  13. cippi

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    the bigger guys fight a little different. ortiz isnt your typical cuban an niether is perez. but perez did adopt another style in ireland .

    but bad mgmt and bad decisions. gamboa made bad choices . he signed with 50 lol . rigo is great idk wat went wrong with him
     
  14. Gil Gonzalez

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    I don't understand this discussion. Shouldn't this be about their fragile glass mandibles?
     
  15. Todd498

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    The poster has a clear agenda. These racists will be charged. I will pay for your subscription to stormfront.

    Usyk lost over 60 undocumented matches to Cubans in the amateurs. Same with Lomachenko. All Slavic have glass jaws and minimal skills.
     
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