Roy Jones vs Triple GGG

I think Roy would definitely have respected GG and his power. But I just don't see how GG would have beaten him. I really don't.

Roy would have been naturally bigger, heavier, with a longer reach, and the difference in speed would have been immense.

In a lot of fights Roy voluntarily backed up to the ropes to have a break and to counter his opponent. But I think he'd have respected GG too much to have done that. I think Roy would have tried to have kept him in the middle of the ring, and he'd have scored shots and then jumped back out of range. He would have found GG easy to hit to score points, even if GG had covered up. GG also marks up, and like GG, Roy also had one punch knockout power at the weight. People think that because GG stalks people and cuts off the ring, he could do that to any opponent. But we don't know whether or not he can do that to an elite opponent.

In my honest opinion, if GG had fought cautious in a chess match, Roy would have nicked the rounds in a pretty lacklustre fight.

If GG had opened up and traded, for me, there could only have been one winner.

I just think Roy was on another level.

 

But how would he have dealt with Roy's offense, to be in a position where he could have landed flush?

Just about anybody can knock anybody out, given the timing, leverage and power etc.

 

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I have to pick RJJ, at 160 lb he was amazing. His reflexes and athleticism were the best the division has ever seen IMHO. I think it'd still be an interesting fight though, you can't count out a monster like GGG. But I don't see how GGG (or basically anyone else) can be picked against prime RJJ at 160 lb.

 

Right.

So he just does, and you don't need to offer an example as to how?

Great.

Thanks for that.

 

At the time, I didn't see how Tarver could beat Roy. But then we all learned how, by catching him clean because he never had a chin. People can cite the drop down from HW, but he proved the decade following that fight it wasn't the reason.

I get that Tarver had a size advantage over Roy, but GGG is immensely more talented and powerful than Tarver and if he connected, there's a good chance Roy gets hurt. Roy ALWAYS had the speed advantage, GGG rarely does. He knows how to absorb those, even the powerful ones that Roy may land.

I know Roy leaned on the ropes tactically, but GGG is on another level with his body attack (which IIRC Roy being susceptible to) and could land a devastating blow.

Like I said, I'm not calling GGG the favorite, but I can see how he could win. Most likely Roy would fight way more cautious that we were used to seeing him fight in the '90's. But would he avoid getting chin-checked all 12? If he does, that's a convincing UD. If he doesn't, he very well could get KO'd.

 

Roy would of put a shellacking on GGG, there's no doubt in my mind.

 

This isn't an easy fight for either of them. And I'm a GGG fanboy with an embossed certificate and everything.

Anybody who thinks either "wins easy" needs to clear their mind of the babble of this forum, and really think about it.

 

Good points.

Just about anyone will go if they're caught perfect.

Of course it would have been a possibility that GG COULD have caught him. It's just that I wouldn't have liked his chances.

I honestly don't think he'd have found himself in the position that Tarver did. I don't think he could have dealt with Roy's offense enough to have given himself that same opportunity.

 

I get so tired of people talking about RJJ's "glass jaw" You realize he was like 35 when Tarver beat him? Come on.

I stand by my earlier post. Roy wins >50% of the time, but occasionally GGG catches him.

As seversal others have said, RJJ in my opinion, is a favorite over anyone in history at 160.

 

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I think GGG is a smart fighter and makes adjustments to find openings. Of course Roy's reflexes were second to none, so the scepticism of him actually getting caught (in his prime) is valid.

I know any slugger gets a "punchers chance" but GGG is better than a slugger. He shows his D when he needs to and leaves himself open when he's looking for drama. I think if he went to trade with Roy, he'd get beat to the punch often, but not hurt. But if he uses his elite ring generalship/footwork to neutralize Roy's athleticism, I think it's certainly possible he hurts him, bad.

GGG has power with both hands from every angle, to head and body. We've seen him floor guys WITH beards on seemingly setup shots.

I could see Roy playing for the UD, keeping his distance and win rounds by being economical and make GGG miss a lot. Trading with GGG may win you a round, but it can put you on the canvas.

Roy was my favorite fighter growin up. GGG is my favorite now. Definitely a fun matchup to ponder.

I would agree if we didn't see him get KTFO several times after. One time? Probably a fluke. Look at PAC. He ate bombs for a decade before he got slept. He ate bombs after and has taken them well. When have we seen Roy take a truly flush shot from a big puncher before that Tarver shot?

And while I'm not necessarily disagreeing, what makes him THE best at 160? Who did he beat besides an unproven BHop who took years to become elite/HoFer? That's the knock on GGG - a weak resume - but I think a case can be made that GGG has a better one than Roy did at MW. Their winning % was equal and GGG has a better KO%, so you'd be hard pressed to convince me Roy was more dominant there.

That's not to say GGG is better (to be determined IMO), just what makes him unbeatable at 160 against anyone in history?

 

Another nothing post.

 

I think if he'd have had a shootout with Roy he'd have been taken out. That's my honest opinion. I love GG but I don't see how he'd have won. I really don't. I'm just being honest. The difference in speed is huge. Roy had insane hand speed, great reflexes, and huge power with great timing and accuracy.

As great as he is, I think GG's just too static and easy to hit.

A guy who would have caused Roy the most trouble at MW, is a guy like Michael Nunn. A slick, 6'1 southpaw, with great technical skills, and a 77" reach. That would have been Roy's worst nightmare.

 

ATG22,

He's obviously looking from a H2H perspective based on Roy's attributes.

Everyone knows that Roy hasn't got a great MW resume. But he beat Thomas Tate in devastating fashion about 6 months before he fought Toney in 1994. The version of Roy who beat Toney was essentially the same guy who beat Tate, apart from being about 5-6 pounds heavier. I would put the version who fought Tate into any fantasy MW match up. I think it would take a special fighter to have beaten that 25 year old version of Roy.