Gene Tunney: Is he a top 10 ATG heavyweight?

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  1. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NY Times, March 26 '61.


    Billy Conn only made 2 or 3 defenses of his LHW title before vacating it, but he is generally considered a fixture in that division's top 10.

    Fidel LaBarba retired and vacated his flyweight title without ever making a single defense of it.

    Marcel Cerdan died without ever having made a single successful defense of his MW title.
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Congratulations!!! Somebody willing to do the research and make a stand!!

    Next question....Is it arguable that none of these fighter belong inb the top 10 of their respective divisions? This is a difficult question for me to ask because I DO rank Conn in the top 10 at 175. Cerdan I don't,....and I am not familiar enough with the flyweight to comment on LaBarber.
     
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    How in the world is Heeney a more valuable name on Tunney's resume than Patterson on Liston's?
     
  4. Zakman

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    Lower reaches of the top 20.
     
  5. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Now this is what i would call overating!
     
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    Liston's people via Jack Nilon offered Johannson £1000,000 to fight Sonny in1962, he turned it down,and tried to get a fight with Archie Moore.
     
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    Yes, maybe the best.
     
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    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Oh dear..........
     
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    I see. Jimmy Young beat Foreman and, arguably, Ali, but Gene couldn't. Billy Conn beat Louis for 12 rounds, but Gene couldn't. Marty Marshall beat Liston, but Gene couldn't. An over the hill, 190ish Walcott almost beat Marciano, but Gene couldn't. Oh dear .....
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I would rank him behind Ali.







    About 30 places behind Ali.
     
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    So you pick Tunney to beat Liston? Because middleweight Harry Greb beat Tunney and Liston couldn't? See how stupid
    this analogy is?
     
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    Tunney wasn't a heavyweight when Greb beat him. Liston was a heavyweight when Marshall beat him
     
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    No he is not a top ten heavyweight, but it might be that he chose not to be!

    Nobody took his title off him, or scared him into retirement.

    He chose to retire at his absolute prime, when he was considered unassailable.

    Had he chosen to hold onto the title until somebody took it from him, his ranking might have escalated rapidly!