Nikolai Valuev vs. Larry Holmes you know because size is more important than skill

That really is not true. The larger fighters Ali beat going away. It was the smaller hwts that could better match his speed that did well with Ali.

 

Holmes via decision. He could win every round.

 

Larry would Hammer valuev all round the ring would be a total school lesson from Holmes .valuev would be totally destroyed in about five totally one sided rnds only his strength and chin keeping
him upright the ref stopping the slaughter with the big man stumbling about like Frankensteins monster totally out of it.

 

larry holmes was neither nor 6'4(he was 6'3) nor 220 pounds, he was 209, go to learn something

 

I'm sorry are you really giving me **** over an inch and 3 lbs?

The Holmes who wrecked Cobb was 217lbs.

Talk to me when you can write a breakdown like I can homie.

 

hahahhaaha now prime holmes weighed 217 pounds, in his mid late 20s he weighed between 196 and 210 pounds, and much more usually was closer to the bottom limit.
and the 6'4 was invented by you and all you wrote was garbage

 

If Holyfield at 46 weighing 214 fought Valuev in 2008 and lost a highly controversial decision then there is no reason
why a prime Holmes would be unable to defeat Valuev by decision.

 

What is your issue? Just feel like arguing?
It's all good homie.
I still love ya.
Have a great day.

 

well, i have no problem with you, only admit that you exaggerated his measures intentionally in order that the difference of size would not look thst big

 

That's a very valid point. Very very old Holy did so well vs the giant. Prime Holmes would obliterate him.

 

Not my intention at all. Made a ball park guess about how big Larry Holmes was. The only fight of his I watched recently was his destruction of Cobb, was off a bit but not by much. Holmes still crushes Valeuv pretty easily.

 

I also heard that Valuev had a world-class shoulder roll that he never utilized in order to give the other guys a chance.

Some guy overheard it at a train station and told my friend's cousin.

True story!

 

Valuev had a CRUNKERCUT???

OMG, that's like, so top secret that I don't even know what it is.

He was truly the complete package.

 

Valuev would do very well against Holmes.

Anyone bringing up Tex Cobb doesn't know what they're talking about. Valuev fought nothing like Tex Cobb and was much larger than Cobb on top of that. That's like saying Valuev would beat Holmes because Nicolay battered Monte Barrett. Barrett wasn't Holmes and Cobb wasn't Valuev.

Holmes had problems with guys who had good jabs. Mike Weaver gave Holmes fits because Weaver jabbed with him. Carl Williams of all people gave Holmes fits because he could match Holmes jab for jab. Ken Norton, who drug his right leg behind him like it had a lead weight attached to it gave Holmes fits because he matched Holmes jab for jab.

Holmes feasted on sluggers (99% of whom were shorter than him) who didn't jab their way in. Valuev couldn't have been further from that style.

Valuev was NINE INCHES taller than Holmes and had a half a foot reach on Holmes and 100 pounds on him!! And when he on his way up and a new champ, Valuev was technically solid and had pretty good speed for his size. He also used the jab very well.

Today, people just focus on the Holyfield-Valuev and Haye-Valuev fights, but Valuev was riddled with injuries at that point which forced his retirement. He could barely get around the ring in his final matches. (Even so, I had Valuev edging both and I wanted both guys to beat him.)

At their bests, I'd give Holmes a slight advantage. But Valuev's jab and the space he created with it would've bothered Holmes all night. Valuev's style was all wrong for Holmes.

Valuev had a 50-2 record because he was much much better than anyone around here gives him credit for.

NOBODY dominated Valuev, and in fact he "this close" to going 52-0, injuries and all.

 

Holmes decision if i haven't already posted.