Moore/Walcott/Charles v. Joshua/Ortiz/Wilder

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It's just very difficult to judge these incomplete works. The fact that two of the moderns here mentioned are into their 30's and still considered incomplete is another matter. But we need to see Wilder, sadly the most proven, against a dangerous, in shape foe. Stiverne was close to that but not sure how good he ever was or how prepared he was that night. Likewise, Ortiz is already getting old and seemed lackluster his last outing. Have we seen his best? Joshua has age on his side but we still don't know how he will perform when taken into deep waters. And like Wilder, the chin question needs answering.
     
  2. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this must be from before scott ortiz, he didn't look so good in parts of the fight, but scott was super negative.

    Joshua moore could easily see an early finish, in fact I should probably have picked him, but unless I missed a fight whyte is still his best win(who did beat chisora since but still doesn't impress me much).
     
  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ortiz couldn't even bring an end to the Scott fight. No way in hell he makes it past a veteran ATG. Your posts are trash and ydksab. Everyone here agrees with that.

    Tell me more about which ATG Wilder, Joshua, and Ortiz have been in with. Btw, why do you come on here if everyone disagrees with and dislikes you?
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The two easiest picks are

    Walcott over Ortiz and Wilder over Charles.

    Moore and Joshua seems an obvious pick on the surface but there's too much we don't know about Joshua. For now I'm gonna say he smashes Moore into next Sunday.
     
  5. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua has 18 pro fights and has never been in the ring with a real talent nor has he been tested. I'd choose Moore on his best night vs any untested young hwt.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    All my instincts are saying Joshua, but I am still conscious that he is unproven.

    Walcott would deal with Ortiz very convincingly.

    I will have to see a lot more from Wilder before I favour him over Charles.
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    The 50's crew might win one match. Too much size and power for the modern crew.

    Now if we are talking pound for pound the modern bunch might not win a match.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You must at least consider that Joshua has a very real chance of knocking Moore out.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Watch Wilder against Stiverne and consider what realistic chance of success Charles has.
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Like what, exactly?
     
  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Despite all the advanced SCIENTIFIC evolution in training and nutrition, and all the EVOLUTION in advanced SCIENTIFIC skill, I think these guys would clown Joshua and Wilder, with them needing to get a bit of luck and land something big to win. Ortiz has the better fundementals, but as he his, his lack of athletisism could cost him, especially against Charles and Moore, again though, big punch.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I'd say Walcott has the best chance here. Charles is much more skilled than Wilder, but Wilder is a quick power puncher with massive height and reach advantage. Charles would need to be very careful. I'd pick AJ over Moore. Principally because of the size difference and AJ has massive punching power and very good technical skills. If Moore was bigger, it'd be another story.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Walcott Charles Moore get knocked out by all these men.

    Huge difference in size height reach power and the three big men are very athletic and have skills and durability