Name for name: Carl Froch resume vs Joe Calzaghe resume

Why are you not posting to me and posting around me?
Reid was the home fighter when they fought in Newcastle with the fans behind him.
You obviously were not aware of some of the things going on during the build up to that fight with Calzaghe finding glass in his food and drink before the Reid fight.
Reid was the home fighter with the fight in England and Reid living in England.
Also Wales is around twice as far away to Newcastle than Runcorn is if you are going down that route
I also notice that like predicted that you didnt answer my question lol

 

Wrong again
Calzaghe had beaten Kessler, moved up in weight to LHW and beaten Hopkins and Jones before Froch even fought Pascal.
This is why you would want me on ignore. Calzaghe had, had his last fight before Froch even won a world title

 

i replied.

u went berserk in response, direct quote above. yet again.

 

I wasn't saying the win didn't count. When looking at a resume they clearly have name value. But when you analyze closer, you realize that beating and old Eubank, or Jones Jr. doesn't mean much. That Eubank is considered one of his top wins, just tells you how weak his resume was. I also don't think controversial wins like Dirrell, and Hopkins meany much resume wise. It's like saying hey he kicked their arses, but those are fight that both guys should have lost on the cards. I think we are getting away from the topic though. Froch's resume, name for name, is better than Calzaghe's.

 

This is your problem.

You don't read posts properly.

Go and reread the post. Look at the bit you've highlighted. Look at the grammar. Look where the full stop is after the figure of £700,000, and then look where the comma is after your name. Those were 2 completely different sentences.

Your name was mentioned in reference to you believing that Joe wanted to fight Roy. I never said that according to you, Joe was paid £700,000 to fight Veit.

 

You have no credibility on this forum, none. Your sole purpose is to post in anti-Calzaghe threads. All background noise.

 

Calzaghe's resume is underrated by people who have only been following boxing for < 10 years. He beat many world champions at the time who don't get mentioned at all because people only seem interested or remember recent belt holders. If you followed Joe's career closely there were many big fights that didn't take place for various reasons.

Joe's issue is that he wasn't 2-3 years younger and would have made the super 6 era and inevitably fought Froch.

 

Fair enough

 

This is very true.
A big thing was that Calzaghe had been a dominant champ for many years and some only followed him late in his career or have only been watching for, as you say 10 or so years.
I can recall when an American publication mentioned something along the lines about how B Mitchell brought excitement to the SMW division and Mitchell was a good SMW that Calzaghe beat in 2 rounds (the only fighter with a clear SMW win over Mitchell) and others like Woodhall. Its forgotten how Woodhall was beating world class fighters like Branco who would beat Reid, G Johnson, Siaca etc, yet years later Branco was drawing for the CW title and around 14 years after was challenging WBC LHW champ Pascal and taking him into the later rounds. Many really just dont know yet feel they are educated enough to pass comment

 

Yep I stand corrected by a month
So Joe fought twice in six months against to old men and suddenly had no china in his hands then hung them up to flee the scene of the crime
Tell me how many mainly career mW Joe feasted upon during g his terroring reign of twenty odd fights

And laughing at Reid home fighter and you claiming the crowd was all robin are you implying Joe could not shift tickets in england lol
Just pop robin a line many of us have I'm sure he will set you straight you know an actual fighter that was there and mixing it in the division and tell him how it was his home fight and he sold the crowd but was not promoters no1 fighter was not the champ and got paid significantly less
Glass in food never heard that one your sure it was not from joes hand and it fell in his dish lol
So much if could maybes and what's surrounding Joe

 

thats becasue he was the only fighter who turned to the ref to ask him to stop the fight (becos byron was obviously too dangerous, hainvg just dropped joe), and his welsh ref duly obliged seconds later when byron slipped.

who had a crippling back injury.

this is why people call you failey. Your own points destory themselves.

 

joe's "unanswered questions" had more to do with which prime fighters he COULD have faced if he made his name in the U.S.
froch was to joe what Calzaghe was to prime jones and Hopkins.
there are always up and coming fighters ready to challenge the bigger fish, but froch had done nothing to earn a shot at calzaghe

 

Not IMO froch was joes mandatory Joe vacated unawansered questions?
Groves got into mandatory for froch did he leave you any unanswered questions
Reid still waiting for the rematch which Joe enzo and fwank promised him ?
Joe states in his autobio that Jones is shot and does nothing for him years later he takes up that challenge ?
He also fought many a career mW ummm
Frtocvh fought Abraham and gets stick and rubbish it as a credible win
Maybe he should have dragged ashore out of retirement as Joe fans hold this as a credible defence
The subject is like joes stoppages and slaps boring and old

 

You're a huge fan of Joe's, and you have in depth knowledge of the history of the SMW division.

Let me ask you a question, and please be honest:

Seeing as though Joe was a tremendous talent, didn't you want to see him move up to LHW earlier than he did, especially when Ottke had no intention of unifying with him?

I'd have fancied him over Dariusz if he'd have gone to Germany.

 

Wrong again. Not even a month. Calzaghes last fight at SMW was Nov 07 and Froch won his first SMW title in Dec 08.
Not sure what crime you feel he fled. Was it beating Hopkins and Jones in America?

Well if you know his career you would be able to answer, so why dont you tell me about all these career MWs and what you are getting at?

I couldnt say for sure what Calzaghes ticket sales were in England but I dont think he was a big ticket seller in general like say Hatton. Calzaghe was dominant rather than in big life or death struggles. But what is that to do with his resume? Or is it you looking for something due to failed arguements?

Why would I need to contact Reid? I expect as challenger Reid would have been paid less. Lets not forget Reid was being given a shot from Calzaghe when he wouldnt face Calzaghe when champ.

So, so far you have not been able to refute anything, not answered my previous questions and been corrected again in the very first sentence. Like norm